- From: Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>
- Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:51:02 -0500
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See http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes [1]W3C - DRAFT - XML Processing Model WG Meeting 161, 03 Dec 2009 [2]Agenda See also: [3]IRC log Attendees Present Paul, Norm, Alex, Vojtech, Murray, Henry Regrets Mohamed Chair Norm Scribe Norm Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]Accept this agenda? 2. [6]Accept minutes from the previous meeting? 3. [7]Next meeting: telcon, 17 Dec 2009 4. [8]CR issues 5. [9]174 formal qualification for things like p:xpath-context, etc. 6. [10]176 p:output and connections 7. [11]177 p:use-when on non-XProc elements 8. [12]178 exclude-inline-prefixes 9. [13]179 use-when and p:episode 10. [14]180 passing a boolean value as a with-param 11. [15]181 using tokens 12. [16]184 iteration position and size 13. [17]185 content-disposition and content-id 14. [18]186 encoding and charset 15. [19]190 Namespace attribute for steps that take wrappers 16. [20]191 Nodelists as value 17. [21]Recent editor's draft 18. [22]Last call plans 19. [23]Any other business? * [24]Summary of Action Items -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Accept this agenda? -> [25]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-agenda Accepted. Accept minutes from the previous meeting? -> [26]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/11/12-minutes -> [27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-processing-model-wg/2009Nov/0026.html Accepted. Next meeting: telcon, 17 Dec 2009 Henry and Norm gave regrets for 10 Dec; Paul is at risk; Murray possibly. Let's cancel 10 Dec. See you all on 17 Dec. CR issues -> [28]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2008/11/cr-comments/ 174 formal qualification for things like p:xpath-context, etc. Henry: This seems to me to be about the question of what is the error. The answer is there's been a static error since day one. ... What is the error for p:banana in p:for-each Norm: For ordinary behavior, I think the answer is clear. I think this is about fowards-compatible behavior. <ht> or my:zoolander in p:for-each Vojtech: It's a static error because it's an unknown element or a dynamic error if it's an unknown step. Norm: It's a static error in the my:zoolander case because you have to have imported a decl for it. Henry: You have to use use-when. Vojtech: With respect to instruction-avaialble, you can always use the version. Norm: You can check for an available step, but not an available new thing like p:new-serialization. Vojtech: That would be a new language feature. Norm: Right, and I think we're willing to live with a little less flexibility there. Vojtech: Checking for p:new-serialization wouldn't be flexible enough, you might want to check for an attribute for example. Henry: Basically, you want to say "use-when this stylesheet will work" and that's just not easy. You'll have to use version numbers for now. ... Version-available is all you get in V1 and that's going to have to be enough. <scribe> ACTION: Henry to follow-up with Vasil. [recorded in [29]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action01] 176 p:output and connections <scribe> ACTION: Editor to consider whether it's possible to clarify the definitions of atomic and compound steps. [recorded in [30]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action02] 177 p:use-when on non-XProc elements Vojtech: There were two things. I think no action is necessary. Norm: Perfect, I'll close that one. 178 exclude-inline-prefixes This was discussed at the 12 November meeting. Decision was that no name change was necessary. Norm: I updated 5.12 Henry: I saw that and concluded that my action had been overtaken. Vojtech: Yes. Norm: Proposal: close as resolved Accepted. 179 use-when and p:episode Norm: Updated 3.9. Is everyone satisfied? Henry: I'm still concerned about listing only what isn't possible. I had listed the things that are available. Vojtech: If you use use-when in a pipeline labeled version=1.0, then step-available only sees the 1.0 steps, right? Norm: Uh... Vojtech: Which means that during pre-processing you must take version into account. Norm: Yes, I think that's right. ... I think the fact that you're in a 1.0 pipeline is something you must know when you evaluate use-when expressions. Vojtech: So a 1.0 pipeline with a 2.0 declare-step, if the declare-step includes a use-when you have to use 2.0 Norm: Yes, that's probably worth mentioning. <scribe> ACTION: Norm to clarify that version comes into play in use-when [recorded in [31]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action03] 180 passing a boolean value as a with-param Henry: Why doesn't this just work? Norm: Because the XPath 2 type system doesn't promote from xs:string to anything automatically. ... I think this just a limitation in v1.0 Proposal: We just have to live with it. Norm: Any objections? Accepted. 181 using tokens Norm: No new features at this point. 184 iteration position and size Norm: I think the upshot is only viewport and for-each change the values <scribe> ACTION: Editor to clarify [recorded in [32]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action04] 185 content-disposition and content-id <scribe> ACTION: Alex to investigate and report back [recorded in [33]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action05] 186 encoding and charset Vojtech: In making the request, if you say encoding=base64 with no charset, then you just send the decoded byte sequence, right? Alex: c:body has content-type but no charset Norm: Right, I think Vojtech's argument to put it in the content type is compelling. ... Yes, c:data on those steps should be consistent with unescape markup 190 Namespace attribute for steps that take wrappers Henry: I'm happy with new-prefix. Norm: I propose to add new-namespace and new-prefix (with appropriate names) to all the steps that have wrapper element names as options. ... Any objections? Accepted. 191 Nodelists as value Norm: No new features. ... I think I should have filtered this one out. Recent editor's draft Henry: I'm happy with it. Vojtech: I have one small thing regarding the XQuery step. <alexmilowski> I'm happy with the most recent draft too. Vojtech: I think in Santa Clara we concluded that for things like XQuery or text input, we don't inherit any namespace bindings. Norm: I'd have to review the minutes again. Last call plans Norm: We're out of time, I'll take it to email Any other business? None heard. Adjourned. Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Alex to investigate and report back [recorded in [34]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action05] [NEW] ACTION: Editor to clarify [recorded in [35]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action04] [NEW] ACTION: Editor to consider whether it's possible to clarify the definitions of atomic and compound steps. [recorded in [36]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: Henry to follow-up with Vasil. [recorded in [37]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action01] [NEW] ACTION: Norm to clarify that version comes into play in use-when [recorded in [38]http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action03] [End of minutes] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Minutes formatted by David Booth's [39]scribe.perl version 1.135 ([40]CVS log) $Date: 2009/12/04 14:50:08 $ References 1. http://www.w3.org/ 2. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-agenda 3. http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-irc 4. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#agenda 5. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#item01 6. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#item02 7. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#item03 8. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#item04 9. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#item05 10. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#item06 11. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#item07 12. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#item08 13. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#item09 14. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#item10 15. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#item11 16. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#item12 17. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#item13 18. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#item14 19. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#item15 20. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#item16 21. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#item17 22. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#item18 23. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#item19 24. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-minutes#ActionSummary 25. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/12/03-agenda 26. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/11/12-minutes 27. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-processing-model-wg/2009Nov/0026.html 28. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2008/11/cr-comments/ 29. http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action01 30. http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action02 31. http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action03 32. http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action04 33. http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action05 34. http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action05 35. http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action04 36. http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action02 37. http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action01 38. http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-xproc-minutes.html#action03 39. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm 40. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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