- From: Paul Grosso <paul@paulgrosso.name>
- Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 10:11:32 -0500
- To: core <public-xml-core-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <5550C6A4.6000607@paulgrosso.name>
The XML Core WG telcons are scheduled for every other week. Our next telcon was scheduled for 2015 May 13. However, given there has been no progress or request for a telcon, the telcon for this week has been CANCELLED. Status and open actions ======================= XML Potential Errata -------------------- Comment that “or by the Byte Order Mark” is lacking in section 4.3.3: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2013OctDec/0002 Comment that an entity cannot “begin” with a BOM as suggested in section 4.3.3: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2013OctDec/0003 ACTION to John and Henry: Review and comment on the above two comments on the discussion of BOMs in section 4.3.3 of the XML spec. --- Comment about documents with an "empty DTD": http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2014Jan/thread#msg8 and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2014JanMar/ Henry suggests we could probably make the XML spec clearer here; see also his comments at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2014JanMar/0004 Paul sent the WG response at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2014JanMar/0005 and there was more back from the commentor at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2014JanMar/ Henry referenced Paul's email at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2014JanMar/0010 especially Paul's suggestion in point 4, though Henry wasn't sure he agreed with the suggestion. ACTION to Henry: Post some suggestion(s) to the list about how to address: Comment about documents with an "empty DTD". --- Question about normalization checking in XML 1.1 ------------------------------------------------ John Cowan forwarded an email for us to consider at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2014Dec/0026 which I've also forwarded to the xml-editor list at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2014OctDec/0000 for official/archive purposes. Paul wrote some comments in email at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2014Dec/0028 Henry checked with Richard who agrees it's a bug, though how to fix it isn't obvious. Probably the only candidates for not being normalized are (internal and external) doctypes per email at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2015Jan/0004 ACTION to Norm and Henry: Review the email about normalization checking in XML 1.1 and suggest an appropriate corrigendum. --- CMSMcQ raised a potential erratum against Namespaces at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-names-editor/2014Sep/0000 with WG discussion started at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2014Sep/0019 He says that our latest wording in the definition of 'namespace name' (section 2.1) appears to say that an element with no namespace binding in scope is in no namespace as opposed to saying its namespace is unknown (thereby leaving the possibility that its namespace information may be determined by some other methods). Norm, Paul, and Henry posted some thoughts on this, and none of us feel that the current wording is necessarily bad enough to be worth any change. In particular, Norm doesn't agree with what Michael thinks should be the case. Henry points out that HTML5 does "make use of" defining namespaces without the namespace spec mechanism. Henry had some more (private) exchanges with Michael, and Henry will summarize the discussion for the WG. ACTION to Henry: Summarize and provide current status of the discussion of this namespace potential erratum. Submitting XML Schema 1.1 to ISO -------------------------------- See also https://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-schema We have decided we will first publish XML Schema 1.1 2E (with approved errata). After that, we would send XML Schema 1.1 2E (only) to ISO. Loren has offered to do the editorial duties, and David talked to CMSMCQ about getting some more help in the details. ACTION to Loren and David: Produce a publication-ready version of XML Schema 1.1 2E incorporating the approved errata. It looks like there are 3 bugs for Structures, none for Datatypes, but after checking with Michael, he found https://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/06/xmlschema-1/structures.errata-2012.html which shows 8 errata items whereas bugzilla shows only 3. We discussed https://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/06/xmlschema-1/structures.errata-2012.html Henry figures we can just publish this document. Loren believes the latest document includes everything, so the next step is to push it through the tool chain. We will need a diff (or list of changes); Loren says the diff is already available. Liam says we don't need a test suite if there are no substantive changes. ACTION to Loren: Create the PER, i.e., XML Schema 1.1 Second Edition, and post (e.g., at http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2014/12/xschema11.html) for the WG to review (talk to Paul if you need help so posting). XInclude 1.1 ------------ On 2012 February 14, we published XInclude 1.1 Requirement and Use Cases http://www.w3.org/TR/xinclude-11-requirements/ On 9 October 2012, we published our FPWD of XInclude 1.1 at http://www.w3.org/XML/2012/10/WD-xinclude-11-20121009/ On 15 January 2013, we published our (first) Last Call of XInclude 1.1 at http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-xinclude-11-20130115/ and Paul sent the transition announcement at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Jan/0012 (also cc-ing the chairs mailing list). On 2013 October 8, we published the XInclude 1.1 CR at http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/CR-xinclude-11-20131008/ We have published (another) Last Call 2014 December 16 at http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-xinclude-11-20141216/ The Last Call period ended January 17. There were no comments. On the Feb 4 telcon, the WG had CONSENSUS to take XInclude 1.1 to CR. Paul drafted a Transition Request (including SOTD wording) at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2015Feb/0010 Liam said Paul should send it to Ralph and PLH (not Philipp Hoschka). Liam said we might not need a telcon. Norm filed an issue on the Xerces issue tracker to support XInclude 1.1; he has heard there is a possibility that the Xerces folks would do it. Jirka has implemented a subset of an XInclude processor in XSLT; it deals mainly with the new copy-attributes feature. ACTION to Norm: Continue to work toward getting XInclude 1.1 implementations and document them in our implementation report. Note also the desire for another test case for the XInclude test suite per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2014Apr/0000 Norm announces that he has one conforming implementation, the one in XML Calabash, and he is working on another. ACTION to Norm: Update the implementation report and test suite. ACTION to Norm: Create the pub-ready CR taking into account the wording/URLs in Paul's draft Transition Request (but make the proposed pubdate [and corresponding URLs] some reasonable future date).
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