RE: Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2014 March 5

Folks:
I'm flying to Germany that day.  There is some chance I'll be landed in time.  Otherwise, proxy to Paul.
Best regards,
David

From: Paul Grosso [mailto:paul@paulgrosso.name]
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 10:31 AM
To: core
Subject: Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2014 March 5

We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday,
March 5, from
         08:30-09:00 Pacific time aka
         11:30-12:00 Eastern time aka
         16:30-17:00 UTC
         16:30-17:00 in Ireland and the UK
         17:30-18:00 in middle (most of) Europe
on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#.
We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .


See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.

Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
at the beginning of the call.



Agenda
======
1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
  the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
  or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).


2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.

Time warp for next telcon
-------------------------
Our next telcon will be on March 19.  This falls in the period
after which North America has started daylight ("summer") hours
but before which the UK and Europe has.  Since our telcons are
scheduled on Boston time, our telcon of March 19 will occur one
hour *earlier* local time for those calling from the UK and Europe.


XML Potential Errata
--------------------
Comment that "or by the Byte Order Mark" is lacking in section 4.3.3:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2013OctDec/0002

Comment that an entity cannot "begin" with a BOM as suggested in section 4.3.3:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2013OctDec/0003

ACTION to John:  Review and comment on the above two comments
on the discussion of BOMs in section 4.3.3 of the XML spec.

----

Comment about documents with an "empty DTD":
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2014Jan/thread#msg8
and
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2014JanMar/

Henry suggests we could probably make the XML spec clearer here;
see also his comments at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2014JanMar/0004

Paul sent the WG response at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2014JanMar/0005
and there was more back from the commentor at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2014JanMar/

ACTION to all:  Read the new email and comment on our WG list.


Submitting XML Schema 1.1 to ISO
--------------------------------
See also
https://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-schema

We have decided we will first publish XML Schema 1.1 2E (with
approved errata).  After that, we would send XML Schema 1.1 2E
(only) to ISO.

Loren has offered to do the editorial duties, and David
talked to CMSMCQ about getting some more help in the details.

ACTION to Loren and David:  Produce a publication-ready version
of XML Schema 1.1 2E incorporating the approved errata.

It looks like there are 3 bugs for Structures, none for Datatypes,
but after checking with Michael, he found
https://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/06/xmlschema-1/structures.errata-2012.html
which shows 8 errata items whereas bugzilla shows only 3.

ACTION to the WG, but especially David:  Discuss what changes
should be made to produce XML Schema 1.1 2E.


Reviewing HTML5 Polyglot Markup
-------------------------------
We've been asked to review something at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2014Feb/0000
though I'm requesting clarification at
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2014JanMar/0076
about just what we've supposed to review.

It's not clear just what we're being asked to review,
but Norm has a copy of the spec and will review it.

John didn't remember any issues.

ACTION to Norm:  Review the HTML5 Polyglot Markup spec.


3.  XML Test Suite.

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-test-suite


4.  LEIRIs--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#leiri

We have planned to issue the following spec editions referencing
LEIRIs (and any outstanding errata):

* XML 1.0 6th Edition (John to be editor)
* XML 1.1 3rd Edition (John to be editor)
* XInclude 3rd Edition (Paul to be editor)

but all this is on hold awaiting resolution of IRIbis.


5.  XML Media types (3023bis)

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-media

Latest IETF draft was -07 dated February 6 at
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-appsawg-xml-mediatypes-07.html<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-appsawg-xml-mediatypes-06.html>

Paul resent a note of support for 3023bis at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2014Feb/0025
and
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/apps-discuss/current/msg11494.html

There is now a February 23 draft at
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-appsawg-xml-mediatypes-08
with a diff at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2012/10/3023bis/draft-ietf-appsawg-xml-mediatypes-08_diff
and a DoC at http://www.w3.org/XML/2012/10/3023bis/07-comments.html
...and finally a March 2 draft at
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-appsawg-xml-mediatypes-09
(I could find no DoC or non-auto diff).

[Henry, the first sentence of the last paragraph of section 2.2
includes the phrase "are given names in in [UNICODE]"--note
the extra "in".]

Henry has asked for another email of support.


6.  XInclude 1.1--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude

On 2012 February 14, we published
XInclude 1.1 Requirement and Use Cases
http://www.w3.org/TR/xinclude-11-requirements/

On 9 October 2012, we published our FPWD of XInclude 1.1 at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2012/10/WD-xinclude-11-20121009/

On 15 January 2013, we published our (first) Last Call of
XInclude 1.1 at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-xinclude-11-20130115/
and Paul sent the transition announcement at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Jan/0012
(also cc-ing the chairs mailing list).


On 2013 October 8, we published the XInclude 1.1 CR at

http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/CR-xinclude-11-20131008/



Norm reports that Michael Kay's code just accesses Xerces code,

so Norm might have to work with Xerces.



DV reports that he is busy and so cannot commit to a deadline

for adding XInclude 1.1 support to libxml.



ACTION to Norm:  Continue to work toward getting XInclude 1.1

implementations and document them in our implementation report.
Some progress, but
ACTION to Norm continued.

Norm may see if he knows anyone still working on Xerces.

Jirka may see if someone from Oxygen may help with the
Xerces work.


7. MicroXML

MicroXML is not in our new charter, but we can discuss it.
We will leave this as an ongoing item in our standing agenda.


paul

[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2014Feb/0008<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Nov/0013>




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