Minutes for XML Core WG telcon of 2013 October 30

Attendees
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Norm
Loren
Henry
Paul
David
John

[6 organizations (8 with proxies) present out of 10]

Regrets
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Daniel, proxy to the chair
Mohamed, proxy to the chair


Absent organizations
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Innovimax (with regrets, proxy to the chair)
Red Hat (with regrets, proxy to the chair)
Univ of Econ, Prague
W3C


Our next telcon is November 13.
Probable regrets from Loren and David (TPAC).


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> 1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
>   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
>   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).
>

Accepted.

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> 2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.
>
> Submitting XML Schema 1.1 to ISO
> --------------------------------
> Liam raised the question of whether the W3C should submit
> XML Schema 1.1 as an ISO standard; some discussion ensued:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Oct/thread#msg28
>
> On the call, most of us were luke warm at best, but
> we need to hear from David to see how enthusiastic he
> is about pushing this through and doing the editorial work.
> Loren offered to do some editorial work.
>
> ACTION to David: Express your opinion of making XML Schema 1.1
> and ISO standard including your willingness to direct the effort.

David is ambivalent.  Having it be an ISO standard might help
in some quarters.  He doesn't think we should do 1.1 without 1.0.

John wonders if this would be under the same place as where ISO
has RelaxNG, Schematron, etc. (scribe missed where that is).

John thinks it is a waste of time.  Norm leaned away from doing it.

Henry thinks it would be useful/worth it.

David and Loren will plan to meet at TPAC to discuss.

John thinks it will be a lot of editorial effort.  He said
getting RelaxNG ISO-ready was a lot of work.

Henry got a different viewpoint from Philippe (or someone).

David points out that 1.0 won't be changing.

ACTION to David and Loren:  Discuss the issues with taking
XML Schema (1.0 and 1.1) to ISO and recommend a path.

Norm would not want to do just 1.0 and not 1.1.

Henry points to
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=58625
which is an ISO publication of W3C's WCAG Recommendation
as an example of something that was easy to port to ISO.

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> 3.  XML Test Suite.
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> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-test-suite
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> 4. LEIRIs--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#leiri
>
> We have planned to issue the following spec editions referencing
> LEIRIs (and any outstanding errata):
>
> * XML 1.0 6th Edition (John to be editor)
> * XML 1.1 3rd Edition (John to be editor)
> * XInclude 3rd Edition (Paul to be editor)
>
> but all this is on hold awaiting resolution of IRIbis.
>
>
> 5.  XML Media types (3023bis)
>
> The latest (diff marked) draft (dated 2013 October 22) is at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2012/10/3023bis/draft-ietf-appsawg-xml-mediatypes-04_diff.html
>
> Non-editorial comments and resolutions at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2012/10/3023bis/02-comments.html
>
> Please note in particular that a significant addition has been made to
> section 3.6 on charset considerations.
>
> ACTION to John:  Review the latest 3023-bis draft.

ACTION to John continued.

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> ACTION to Henry: Implement Paul's remaining editorial comments at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Oct/0045
>

ACTION to Henry continued.

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> 6.  XInclude 1.1--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude
>
> On 2012 February 14, we published
> XInclude 1.1 Requirement and Use Cases
> http://www.w3.org/TR/xinclude-11-requirements/
>
> On 9 October 2012, we published our FPWD of XInclude 1.1 at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2012/10/WD-xinclude-11-20121009/
>
> On 15 January 2013, we published our (first) Last Call of
> XInclude 1.1 at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-xinclude-11-20130115/
> and Paul sent the transition announcement at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Jan/0012
> (also cc-ing the chairs mailing list).
> On 2013 October 8, we published the XInclude 1.1 CR at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/CR-xinclude-11-20131008/
>
> ACTION to Norm:  Talk to Michael Kay and DV about implementing
> XInclude 1.1.


Michael Kay's code just accesses Xerces code, so Norm might
have to work with Xerces.  He has also contacted DV but hasn't
heard back yet.

ACTION to Norm (to work toward getting Xinclude 1.1 implementations)
continued.



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> 7. MicroXML
>
> MicroXML is not in our new charter, but we can discuss it.
> We will leave this as an ongoing item in our standing agenda.
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> paul
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> [1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
> [2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
> [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Oct/0008
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