Minutes for XML Core WG telcon of 2013 May 15

Attendees
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Norm
Paul
Liam
Henry
John
Jirka

[6 organizations (7 with proxies) present out of 8]

Regrets
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Daniel, proxy to the chair


Absent organizations
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Innovimax
Red Hat (with regrets, proxy to the chair)


Our next telcon is May 29.  Henry gives regrets.



> 1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
>   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
>   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).
>

Accepted.

>
> 2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.
>
> XML Activity AC Review
> ----------------------
> The XML Activity AC review was open through April 26.
>
> We will ask Liam to report on the status.
>
> There were some comments about modifications to the charter.
> We will hear more about that later.

No progress since our last telcon.


>
> xmlspec.xsl and diffspec.xsl
> ----------------------------
> Paul sent email about this at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012Nov/0014
>
> ACTION to Norm:  Come up with (and implement) a plan to
> reorganize xmlspec.xsl and diffspec.xsl to "do the right thing."
>
>
> DOM4
> ----
> Henry reported that DOM4 has removed (or deprecated) access to the
> XML Declaration. Our Infoset spec says that standalone, version,
> and the encoding are part of the information content of an XML
> document.
>
> Henry and Paul think the XML Core WG should send an email
> to the Web Applications Working Group (public-webapps@w3.org)
> to reinstate the parts of the xml decl that are in the Infoset.
>
> Henry drafted a potential comment at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Feb/0023
>
> John filed some thoughts to the contrary at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Feb/0026
>
> Henry figures we should discuss this some more.
> Norm is having a hard time caring about all this.
>
> Henry reached out to the webapps working group at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Apr/0009
> to try to collect some more data on this issue.
>   
>
> Possible removal of XSLT support in Chrome
> ------------------------------------------
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Apr/thread.#msg16

Not much more to say on this topic.

We'll see what happens about our request to add
stuff about the xml-stylesheet PI to HTML5.


----

John requests that we add MicroXML to the standing agenda,
and there were no objections.

> 3.  XML Test Suite.
>
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-test-suite
>
> ACTION to Henry: Construct a test case for the XML test suite
> issues raised by Frans Englich:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/
>
>
> 4.  LEIRIs--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#leiri
>
> We have planned to issue the following spec editions referencing
> LEIRIs (and any outstanding errata):
>
> * XML 1.0 6th Edition (John to be editor)
> * XML 1.1 3rd Edition (John to be editor)
> * XInclude 3rd Edition (Paul to be editor)
>
> but all this is on hold awaiting resolution of IRIbis.
> Henry has been added as an editor and there is now a new draft,
> draft-lilley-xml-mediatypes-00 at
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lilley-xml-mediatypes-00
> We now await this going through the IETF process.
>
>
> 5.  XInclude 1.1--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude
>
> On 2012 February 14, we published
> XInclude 1.1 Requirement and Use Cases
> http://www.w3.org/TR/xinclude-11-requirements/
>
> On 9 October 2012, we published our FPWD of XInclude 1.1 at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2012/10/WD-xinclude-11-20121009/
>
> On 15 January 2013, we published our (first) Last Call of
> XInclude 1.1 at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-xinclude-11-20130115/
> and Paul sent the transition announcement at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Jan/0012
> (also cc-ing the chairs mailing list).
>
> To date, there has been one comment posted to
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-xinclude-comments/
> Norm posted announcement of the XInclude 1.1 Last Call
> to the DocBook list and there have been some comments at
> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/201301/threads.html#00005
> Norm posted announcement of the XInclude 1.1 Last Call
> to the xml-dev list at
> http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/201302/msg00023.html
> (No comments to date.)
>
> ACTION to Norm: Prepare a Disposition of Comments document for
> XInclude 1.1.


Norm has started a DoC at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2013/05/xinclude-11-lc-doc/

Comment #001, fragid definition for XInclude 1.1
------------------------------------------------
We should say something about implementations *should*
try to figure out fragids before just doing whatever
they want with other values of the parse attribute.

Another example is xincluding a graphics format that
then magically becomes SVG.

>
> ACTION to Norm: Create an Implementation Report document for
> XInclude 1.1.
>
> Liam reminds us we will need a test suite too.
>
>
> paul
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
> [2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
> [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013May/0001
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