Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2009 March 11

 
We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday, 
March 11, from
          08:00-09:00 Pacific time aka
          11:00-12:00 Eastern time aka
          15:00-16:00 UTC                                      *
          15:00-16:00 in Ireland and the UK                    *
          16:00-17:00 in middle (most of) Europe               *
on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#.
We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .

See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.

Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
at the beginning of the call.

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* NOTE:  Most of North America has started daylight saving time 
whereas the UK and Europe will not switch until the end of the 
month.  That means that callers from the UK and Europe will need 
to dial in one hour EARLIER than usual local time for our telcons 
of March 11 and March 25:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=3&day=11&year
=2009&hour=11&min=0&sec=0&p1=43

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Agenda
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1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).


2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.

The next Technical Plenary (and AC meeting) week (TPAC week) 
will be Nov 2-6 in Santa Clara, California:
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/TPOverview.html#Future

The XML Core WG is tentatively planning to meet f2f 
during that week.

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The AC Review of the XML Activity (that includes the
charter for the XML Core WG) closes this Wednesday,
and the responses to date have been meager.

Please urge your organizations's AC rep to respond
to the call for review at:
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/xmlactivity/

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Addison Phillips of I18N sent email about 
Unicode Normalization in XML 1.0 5th Ed.; see
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Feb/0019

Allowing canonical equivalents to be treated as identical 
directly in XML implies that an element's start tag and
end tag could be character-for-character different.  This
is not currently the case--such would be not well-formed
and the input is therefore not XML--and the WG does not want 
to make it the case.

We could add some "motherhood" notes saying that XML producers
SHOULD produce normalized output.

We will revisit this on our next telcon with the hope that
we can have Richard and Francois join us.


3.  XML 1.0

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-errata

The XML 1.0 5th Edition Recommendation is at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126/


4.  XML Test Suite.

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-test-suite

ACTION to Richard:  Construct a test case for the XML test suite 
issues raised by Frans Englich:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/ 


5.  Namespaces in XML 1.0/1.1

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.0 and
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.1.

The NS 1.0 2nd Ed Errata document is at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2006/xml-names-errata

The NS PE doc is at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2001/05/proposed-xml-names-errata.html

Richard added some discussion at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2001/05/proposed-xml-names-errata.html#npe29
The WG agreed with his direction and asked that he go forward with it.

ACTION to Richard:  Fill in a proposed resolution for NPE29.


6.  LEIRIs

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#leiri

The WG Note defining LEIRIs is at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-leiri-20081103/

The following specs need to be revised to reference LEIRIs:
XML 1.0 6th Edition
XML 1.1 3rd Edition 
XML Base 2nd Edition
XLink 1.1 (First Edition)
XInclude 3rd Edition 

7.  xml:id

The xml:id Recommendation is at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/REC-xml-id-20050909/

John Cowan submitted a proposed erratum at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Jan/0009
and the WG had Consensus to do as follows:

 The sentence "A document that uses xml:id attributes that 
 have a declared type other than xs:ID will always generate 
 xml:id errors" in Appendix D.3 should be deleted.

ACTION to Henry:  Update the Errata document at
http://www.w3.org/2005/09/xml-id-errata

ACTION to Henry:  Think about the appropriateness of
the same sentence in Appendix D.2.


8.  XML Base 2nd Edition 2nd Rec

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-base

The XML Base 2nd Edition Recommendation is at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/REC-xmlbase-20090128/


9.  XLink 1.1.

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xlink1.1

The earlier XLink CR was published at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-xlink11-20060328/ 

The XLink 1.1 LC was published at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-xlink11-20080331/

The LC review period ended 16 May 2008.

Norm has prepared a DoC at 
http://www.w3.org/XML/2008/05/xlinklc/

ACTION to Norm:  Ensure the DoC is up to date.

ACTION to Norm:  Update XLink 1.1 to refer to the LEIRI note.

There's an open question about whether the XSD/DTD 
should default the xlink:type attribute value. 
None of this effects our last call because the
XSD/DTD are not normative.

John asked whether we should have two schemas, one for
each of our conformance levels.
The notion was to have a schema for people who want to implement
the basic level of conformance, so they only have simple links.
For the DTD, which is just a sample, we just need a smaller
subset. Likewise, the XSD should include only declarations 
for the simple links.

ACTION to Henry, John:  Produce a basic level
conformance XSD and RelaxNG schema for XLink.

Paul asks us to consider skipping CR and going directly to PR.

ACTION to Henry:  Review the history and make a recommendation
as to whether we should skip CR and go directly to PR.

ACTION to Paul:  Draft a PR transition request.


10.  XInclude 3rd Edition

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude

XInclude 2nd Edition is at:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xinclude-20061115

See http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude for
LEIRI-related changes for the 3rd Edition.

ACTION to Daniel: Produce a PER-ready draft of XInclude 3rd Ed
with appropriate references to the IRI RFC for LEIRIs.


11.  Associating Stylesheets.

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#assoc-ss

Associating stylesheets with XML version 1.0 is at:
http://www.w3.org/1999/06/REC-xml-stylesheet-19990629/

The Errata document is at:
http://www.w3.org/1999/06/REC-xml-stylesheet-19990629/errata

Simon has requested we consider revisions; see his email at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Feb/0002
and his suggested draft at
http://simon.html5.org/specs/xml-stylesheet5

See also Simon's email at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Feb/0014
outlining various issues.

Paul sent email giving Arbortext's behavior and other comments at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Feb/0022

ACTION to Henry:  Determine Saxon behavior in various erroneous cases
and reply to Simon's email with results and suggested resolutions.

Others are invited to reply to Simon's email with suggested resolutions.


paul

[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2009Feb/0020

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