Minutes for XML Core WG telcon of 2008 July 2

Attendees
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Konrad xx:11
John  xx:11
Glenn
Norm
Paul 
Henry 

[6 organizations (7 with proxies) present out of 9]

Regrets
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Richard, proxy to Henry
François 

Absent organizations
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Univ of Edinburgh (with regrets, proxy to Henry)
François Yergeau (with regrets)
Daniel Veillard


> 1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
>    the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
>    or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).

Accepted.

> 
> 2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.
> 
> October Technical Plenary
> -------------------------
> The next Technical Plenary is scheduled for October in Cannes:
> http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/Overview.html
> We have tentatively decided to meet there.
> 
> The schedule is at: http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/Schedule.html
> XML Core meets Monday and Tuesday.
> 
> Registration for the October TPAC2008: Combined Technical 
> Plenary and Advisory Committee Meeting is now open at 
> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2008/. 
> Registration will close on 28 September, but the discount 
> rate for hotel rooms will expire as of 8 September 2008.
> 
> Probable attendees:  Henry, Norm, Richard
> Quite unlikely:  Glenn, Francois
> Uncertain:  Konrad (but unlikely), John, Daniel, Paul
> 
> 
> 3.  C14N 1.1
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#c14n1.1
> 
> The C14N 1.1 Recommendation has been published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-c14n11-20080502/
> 
> 
> 4.  XML 1.0
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-errata
> 
> The XML 1.0 5th Edition PER has been published at
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PER-xml-20080205/
> 
> The PER period ended 16 May 2008. 
> 
> We need to have at least three implementations that 
> pass the test suite for each of the errata that have 
> been newly applied to the 5th Edition. 
> 
> A preliminary implementation report is at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2008/01/xml10-5e-implementation
> 
> ACTION to Richard, Henry:  Add a test to the XML 1.0 5th Ed 
> Test Suite about version=1.7 documents.
> 
> A preliminary implementation report is at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2008/01/xml10-5e-implementation
> 
> ACTION to DV:  Give update on status for implementing 
> XML 1.0 5th Edition.
> 
> ACTION to Glenn:  Check with Apache folks on status of
> implementing XML 1.0 5th Edition.
> 
> ACTION to Norm:  Check with Sun if the JAXP TCK includes 
> tests which fail if you implement the 5th Ed and if so 
> whether we can get a blanket exclusion from Sun for those 
> tests.

ACTIONs above continued.

> 
> 
> 5.  XML 1.1
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml1.1
> 
> XML 1.1 2nd Edition published 2006 August 16:
> 
>  Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.1 (Second Edition)
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml11-20060816
> 
> 
> 6.  XML Test Suite.
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-test-suite
> 
> Henry/Richard discussed some test suite issues raised by 
> Frans Englich:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/ 
> 
> ACTION to Richard:  Construct a test case for the XML test suite 
> issues raised by Frans Englich:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/ 
> 
> 
> 7.  Namespaces in XML 1.0/1.1
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.0 and
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.1.
> 
> 2nd Editions published 2006 August 16:
> 
>  Namespaces in XML 1.0 (Second Edition)
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names-20060816
> 
>  Namespaces in XML 1.1 (Second Edition)
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names11-20060816
> 
> Richard has partially updated the NS PE doc at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2001/05/proposed-xml-names-errata.html
> 
> ACTION to Richard:  Fill in proposed resolutions for NPE27-30.
> 
> 
> 8.  LEIRIs
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#leiri
> 
> Martin's latest IRI draft (defining LEIRIs in section 7) is at 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-duerst-iri-bis-02.txt

This is now expired and therefore unavailable!

> 
> Paul's summary of what comes next spec-by-spec is at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0045
> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Do some pinging about the schedule of IRI bis.

ACTION to Henry continued, pointing out the having the IRI-bis
draft expired is a serious problem for us.

> 
> 
> 9.  XML Base 2nd Edition 2nd PER
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-base
> 
> The (second) XML Base (Second Edition) PER has been published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PER-xmlbase-20080320/
> and announced at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2008JanMar/0112
> 
> The XML Base PER review period ended 30 June 2008.
> 
> We have some comments in the comments list:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2008AprJun/0003
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2008AprJun/0011
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2008AprJun/0012
> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Let us know of any other review comments 
> on XML Base PER (e.g., by AC reps) that aren't recorded in 
> the comments archive.

Only positive comments from AC reps.

> 
> ACTION to Richard:  Review and suggest responses to the
> comments and develop a DoC document.

We discussed the XHTML WG comment at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2008AprJun/0011
a bit.

The IRI-bis does allow x00-1F in LEIRIs, but such LEIRIs cannot
be expressed in an XML document.  The set of LEIRIs that can be
expressed in an XML document is identical to what was always
allowed in XML documents.  See, for example:
http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlbase/#escaping
in XML Base 1.0.  What we have in XML Base 1.1 is identical to
what we allow in XML Base 1.0.

ACTION to Norm: Respond to 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2008AprJun/0011
explaining ourselves and suggesting the additional of a
clarificatory sentence.

> 
> 
> 10.  XLink 1.1.
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xlink1.1
> 
> The earlier XLink CR was published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-xlink11-20060328/ 
> 
> The XLink 1.1 LC was published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-xlink11-20080331/
> and announced at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Apr/0006
> 
> The LC review period ended 16 May 2008.
> 
> Norm has prepared a DoC at 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2008/05/xlinklc/
> 
> ACTION to Henry and Norm:  Figure out how to get the XSD for
> XLink at an accessible URI.

Done.

> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Compare the XSD for XLink at 
> http://schemas.opengis.net/xlink/1.0.0/xlinks.xsd
> with that in the XLink spec.

Henry has done both above actions and produced a new 
draft XSD.

John asked whether we should have two schemas, one for
each of our conformance levels.

ACTION to Henry, John:  Think about having a basic level
conformance XSD for XLink.

> 
> Once we handle the XSD issues, we should be ready for
> the next step.
> 
> Paul asks us to consider skipping CR and going directly
> to PR.
> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Review the history and make a recommendation
> as to whether we should skip CR and go directly to PR.
> 

ACTION to Henry continue.

> 
> 11.  XInclude 3rd Edition
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude
> 
> XInclude 2nd Edition is at:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xinclude-20061115
> 
> See http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude for
> LEIRI-related changes for the 3rd Edition.
> 
> ACTION to Daniel: Produce a PER-ready draft of XInclude 3rd Ed
> with appropriate references to the IRI RFC for LEIRIs.
> 
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
> [2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
> [3] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Jun/0010
>

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