Minutes for XML Core WG telcon of 2008 January 16

Attendees
---------
 John (briefly)
 Glenn
 Paul 
 Norm
 Richard
 Henry 

[6 organizations (7 with proxies) present out of 9]

Regrets
------- 
Daniel, proxy to the chair and an explicit vote to 
	take XML 1.0 5th Ed to PER.


Absent organizations
--------------------
A-SIT
Daniel Veillard (with regrets, proxy to the chair)
François Yergeau


> 1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
>    the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
>    or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).

Accepted.

> 
> 2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.
> 
> We have a request from the Web Application Formats WG to review 
> the Access Control for Cross-site Requests document.  The draft 
> introduces a policy for performing cross-site requests (using GET 
> and non-GET methods) which can be used by XMLHttpRequest, XSLT, 
> <event-source>, XBL, etc.:
> 
>     http://www.w3.org/TR/access-control/
> 
> Reviewing the <?access-control?> processing instruction might be 
> of particular interest to XML Core.
> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Review this for XML Core.

The TAG has weighed in.  Henry says there are issues
being raised by the TAG, but he doesn't see anything
XML Core specific worth discussing.

ACTION to Paul:  Reply to the original request to review.

> 
> ---
> 
> MathML WG points out an upcoming WD of 
> 
> "XML Entity definitions for Characters"
> 
> and asks if anyone in the XML Core WG would be interested in
> reviewing this.
> 
> The draft is being developed in public, 
> 
> http://www.w3.org/2003/entities
> 
> and in particular an "editor's copy" available here:
> 
> http://www.w3.org/2003/entities/2007doc/overview.html
> 
> John reviewed this at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Jan/0006
> and doesn't think there is any need for XML Core to review 
> or comment.
> 
> ACTION to Paul:  Send email to MathML WG saying we have no
> official XML Core review, but we have no problem with it.

ACTION to Paul continued.

> 
> ---
> 
> OASIS has announced another XRI document for public review:
> 
> Extensible Resource Identifier (XRI) Resolution Version 2.0
> 
> The public review starts today, 3 December 2007, and ends 
> 1 February 2008.
> 
> More non-normative information about the specification and 
> the technical committee may be found at the public home page 
> of the TC at 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=xri. 
> 
> The specification document and related files are available here:
> 
> Editable Source:
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/xri/2.0/specs/cd02/xri-resolution-V2.0-cd-02.doc
> 
> PDF:
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/xri/2.0/specs/cd02/xri-resolution-V2.0-cd-02.pdf
> 
> HTML:
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/xri/2.0/specs/cd02/xri-resolution-V2.0-cd-02.html
> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Review this for XML Core.

ACTION to Henry continued.

> 
> ---
> 
> Selectors API has now moved to last call, and we are asked to 
> review it:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-selectors-api-20071221/
> 
> John reviewed it at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0048
> and raised an issue about its discussion of supporting 
> case-insensitive namespace prefixes.

ACTION to John:  Re-review this issue and let us know if
XML Core should make a comment about this.

> 
> 
> 3.  C14N 
> 
> The C14N 1.1 Candidate Recommendation is published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/CR-xml-c14n11-20070621
> 
> Known Issues with Canonical XML 1.0 (C14N/1.0) WG Note 
> has been published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/NOTE-C14N-issues-20061220/
> 
> Using XML Digital Signatures in the 2006 XML Environment 
> WG Note has been published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/NOTE-DSig-usage-20061220/
> 
> An almost PR-ready version of C14N 1.1 is at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2007/12/PR-xml-c14n11-20071211/
> and the PR transition request is at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Jan/0002
> 
> We are currently targetting 2008 January 29 for a 
> publication date, and we have a transition call scheduled 
> for Tuesday 22 Jan 1200EST.

So noted.

> 
> 4.  XML 1.0 5th Edition
> 
> Francois has updated the PE document at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2006/08/proposed-xml10-4e-and-xml11-2e-errata.html
> The following PEs are in countdown until January 16:
> PE154, PE155, PE160, PE161, and PE163.  PE164 has a
> proposed resolution that we will also accept as part
> of moving XML 1.0 5th Ed to PER.

Consensus to move all these forward as official errata.

ACTION to Francois:  Turn all the approved PEs into errata, 
update the Errata document, then update the PER review draft
to reference the actual errata and republish the PER review draft.

> 
> Francois has generated a PER-ready version of XML 1.0 5th Edition 
> with approved errata (and warning about upcoming PE about LEIRIs):
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2008/01/PER-xml-20080205/
> 
> Paul sent out draft #1 of the PER request at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Jan/0033
> 
> We need to decide on an end date for the PER period.

We decided on 2008 May 16 as an end date.

ACTION to Francois:  Update the PER draft to reflect a comment 
close date of 16 May 2008.

ACTION to Paul:  After Francois has updated things, send in
the PER transition request for XML 1.0 5th Edition.

> 
> We expect to vote to request PER on this latest draft of
> XML 1.0 5th Edition during this week's telcon.

(John was present for this vote.)

We had CONSENSUS to request that XML 1.0 5th Edition transition to PER. ***

ACTION to Henry:  At some point, make sure TimBL is aware of this.

> 
> 5.  LEIRIs
> 
> Martin's latest IRI draft (defining LEIRIs in section 7) is at 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-duerst-iri-bis-02.txt
> 
> Martin's latest email is at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0042
> 
> Paul's summary of what comes next spec-by-spec is at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0045
> 
> 
> 6.  XML 1.0/1.1 4th/2nd Editions published 2006 August 16:
> 
>  Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.0 (Fourth Edition)
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-20060816
> 
>  Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.1 (Second Edition)
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml11-20060816
> 
> Henry/Richard discussed the test suite issues raised by Frans Englich:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/ 
> 
> These need to be resolved. 
> 
> Richard reports that the 2005 issue has been resolved in the 
> latest draft. 
> 
> The one from 2006, character references with numbers with 
> dozens of digits, may not be. 
> 
> ACTION: Richard to construct a test case for these issues.

ACTION to Richard continued.

> 
> 7. Namespaces in XML 1.0/1.1 2nd Editions published 2006 August 16:
> 
>  Namespaces in XML 1.0 (Second Edition)
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names-20060816
> 
>  Namespaces in XML 1.1 (Second Edition)
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names11-20060816
> 
> Richard has recorded Anne's issue/proposed resolution at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2001/05/proposed-xml-names-errata#NPE27
> 
> ACTION to Richard:  Look into Anne's (two) comments at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-names-editor/2007Oct/
> 
> 
> 8.  xml:base, [baseURI], and IRIs -> LEIRIs
> 
> The (Second Edition) XML Base PER has been published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/PER-xmlbase-20061220/ 
> 
> Richard has produced another PER-ready draft of XML Base 
> referencing LEIRIs at:
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/09/xmlbase-2e/
> 
> Things still to be done:
> 
>  - decide how to reference the not-yet-existent replacement for 3987
>    (referred to as 3987 bis in this draft)

Reference:
 Martin's latest IRI draft (defining LEIRIs in section 7) is at 
 http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-duerst-iri-bis-02.txt

> 
>  - correct the patent statement per
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2007JanMar/0000
> 
>  - improve the formatting of references so they have links in.
> 
>  - see if there is anything else we were planning to fix between 
> the old PER and REC.
> 
> ACTION to Richard:  Finish edits for the PER-ready draft of XML Base.

In progress.  Ian has sent extended edits to the PP at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Jan/0038

> 
> 
> 9.  XLink update.
> 
> The XLink CR was published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-xlink11-20060328/ 
> 
> The latest almost PR-ready XLink draft is at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/xmlcore/xlink11/
> 
> Norm posted a DoC at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/10/xlink11-doc.html
> 
> Paul wrote a SECOND draft PR request at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Dec/0059
> 
> ACTION to Norm:  Complete resolution of DoC.
> 
> ACTION to WG (need volunteer):  Update the Implementation Report.
> 

We decided the next step would be another LC.

> ACTION to Norm: Produce a LC-ready draft of XLink 1.1 with 
> a reference to the IRI RFC for LEIRIs such as:
> 
>  Section 5.4: 
> 
>  replace para starting:
> 
>   The value of the href attribute is an XML resource identifer...
> 
>  with:
> 
>   The value of the href attribute is a LEIRI [ref].
> 
>  and then delete subsection 5.4.1 but move the para about 
>  relative references up into 5.4.
> 
> ACTION to Norm:  Suggest any other appropriate changes to XLink 1.1.
> 
> ACTION to Norm:  Produce diff/review version.
> 
> ACTIONs to Norm continued, due 2008 January 16.

ACTIONs (including producing an LC-ready draft) to Norm continued, 
due 2008 February 13.

> 
> 
> 10.  XInclude 3rd Edition
> 
> XInclude 2nd Edition is at:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xinclude-20061115
> 
> LEIRI-related changes for the 3rd Edition:
> 
> 3.1, href attribute is a LEIRI
> 
> See also 4.1.1 (details TBD) which can't reference XML 1.1
> since we don't define XML Resource Identifiers in XML 1.1.
> Just replace that para with the "They are LEIRIs" para.
> 
> ACTION to Daniel: Produce a PER-ready draft of XInclude 3rd Ed
> with appropriate references to the IRI RFC for LEIRIs.
> 
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
> [2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
> [3] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Jan/0001
>

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