Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2006 May 10

We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday, 
May 10, from
          08:00-09:00 Pacific time aka
          11:00-12:00 Eastern time aka
          15:00-16:00 UTC
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on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#.
We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .

See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.

Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
at the beginning of the call.


Agenda
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1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).


2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.

DV sends regrets for May 10, 17, 24.

Lew sends regrets for May 17, 24.

HT sends regrets for May 17.


3.  C14N 

Glenn created an editor's draft of C14N 1.1 which is up at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/02/WD-xml-c14n11

We had some discussion at the f2f--see
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/02/xml-f2f-20060302-minutes.htm#c14n

At the f2f, we decided to produce a W3C WG Note documenting 
the current situation and issues and problems.

Thomas wrote an outline of this note at
http://www.w3.org/2006/04/c14n-note

ACTION to Thomas:  Produce a first editors draft of the 
C14N note by Monday, June 5th.

After a discussion of how we might be able to
handle xml:base in C14N, Glenn made a pass at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Apr/att-0009/
WD-xml-c14n11-20060409.html

We decided to use "inheritable" instead of "heritable". 
Dump "joint (in)heritable" as a concept and just talk 
about xml:base fixup.

ACTION to Glenn:  Send out a new draft by May 5th.


4.  xml:base, [baseURI], and IRIs.

At the f2f, we had CONSENSUS to change the 
xml:base spec to make it clear we allow IRIs as the 
value of xml:base. We also want to allow IRIs in the 
infoset [baseURI] information item.

One paragraph in the Infoset says the baseURI may
have unescaped characters, but elsewhere it says
the baseURI follows XML Base which points to RFC 2396.
If we change XML Base, we shouldn't have to change
the Infoset spec much.


5.  XLink update.

XLink is now in CR--published at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-xlink11-20060328/ 

Norm sent some email about his test suite at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Mar/0066


6. XML errata.  The published 1.0 errata document is [8], the
   published 1.1 errata document is [9], and the new (public)
   Potential Errata (PE) document is [7]. 

Francois has developed an almost-ready editor's draft
of both XML 1.0 4th Ed and XML 1.1 2nd Ed.

Francois still needs to double check that it has all
the errata and then there's the status section and
new pubrules.  And then we should have an XML 1.0 4th Ed.

Similarly with 1.1 2nd Ed.

ACTION to Francois for this week's telcon:  Produce 
PER-ready drafts of XML 1.0 4th Ed and XML 1.1 2nd Ed.


7. Namespaces in XML.

Richard suggested we take NS 1.1 and revert the two 
substantive changes (IRI and undeclared namespaces) 
to create NS 1.0 2nd Ed. The WG has consensus to do 
that, and we got approval from the team to do so.

Richard sent his progress to date as described at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Apr/0025

Richard suggested wording for the erratum about 
more cases of abusing the xml and xmlns prefix at
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2001/05/proposed-xml-names-errata#NPE26
and we had CONSENSUS on the new wording which is now 
in countdown until May 17.

ACTION to Richard:  Apply this erratum to both 1.0 and 1.1
new editions.

ACTION to Richard (after countdown):  Apply this PE to 
the 2 Errata documents.


8. Xinclude Rec was published 2004 December 30 at:
   http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-xinclude-20041220/

Our XInclude potential errata document is at:
http://www.w3.org/XML/2005/01/proposed-xinclude-errata

Daniel has updated the Errata document at
http://www.w3.org/2004/12/xinclude-errata 

Daniel has drafted XInclude 2nd Edition with all 
the errata (including the IRI one) applied. Result is 
http://www.w3.org/XML/2006/04/XInclude/REC-xinclude-20060423.html
with a diff version at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2006/04/XInclude/REC-xinclude-20060423-review.html

ACTION to Francois:  Review section 4.1.1 at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2006/04/XInclude/REC-xinclude-20060423-review.html
#IRIs
and see if it references the XML spec as we intended.

Still need to handle errata document for the new edition
and other front matter.


9.  Associating stylesheets--awaiting TAG action.

Henry reports that the HTML CG has been discussing this
for a while.  They are developing a draft statement of
the issue, and Chris Lilley will raise this at the XML CG.

Chris started the discussion on the XML CG list--see
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-cg/2005Jul/thread.html#15
The XML CG will continue to discuss it for a while.


10.  Henry raises that RFC 3023 is out of date and the draft
replacement has expired.  

Chris has gotten the source and made the changes.

There is a draft at
http://www.w3.org/2006/02/son-of-3023/draft-murata-kohn-lilley-xml-02.tx
t
that can be reviewed now with comments sent to the XML Core
mailing list and/or Chris Lilley.

Chris plans to open it up for public review April 26th.

When 3023bis becomes a reality, we might have some
specs that need updating for the reference, but we
don't expect any major changes.

Paul sent some comments on 3023bis to the XML CG at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-cg/2006Apr/0026

Paul and Henry discussed a bit.  We plan to revisit 
this during this week's telcon.


[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006May/0007
[7]
http://www.w3.org/XML/2004/02/proposed-xml10-3e-and-xml11-errata.html
[8] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V10-3e-errata
[9] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V11-1e-errata
[11] http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-xhtml-rdfa-primer-20060310/ 
[12] http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-xhtml-rdfa-primer-20060310/#id69192

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