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Re: PGP aside

From: Peter Williams <home_pw@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 17:18:22 -0800
Message-ID: <DUB0-P4-EAS4F78E8E0B0B67AA9D1B0392930@phx.gbl>
To: Mo McRoberts <mo.mcroberts@bbc.co.uk>
CC: "melvincarvalho@gmail.com" <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>, "public-xg-webid@w3.org" <public-xg-webid@w3.org>
I struggle to use the ordered list ontology, to describe a cert chain. I ended up stuffng an existing blog I. My card, that already lists Certs in a chain and allows me to annotate properties.

We just have to be careful not to set off the x509 vs pgp war (again) which is even more anal then the rdf/XML vs Tuttle "discussion".

We are making some progress on synonym theory , and yes it would be good to be able to persist a description of "trust chain" of named points in the http namespace, as rooted at the verifiers card . 

For what it's worth, in PKi topology, such is known as the entrust model, which contrasts with the discredited hierarchical model enforced by the likes of Mozilla (as guardian of the browser root list).

Sent from my iPhonedel

On Dec 30, 2011, at 4:28 PM, "Mo McRoberts" <mo.mcroberts@bbc.co.uk> wrote:

> On 30 Dec 2011, at 15:22, Peter Williams wrote:
>> I dont really see semweb as "designing" anything. I see it as describing whats already there.
> Yes — and so I see that it's valuable to be able to describe completely ad-hoc networks (i.e., via self-assertion using FOAF or similar), or slightly more encapsulated networks (such as PGP WoT), or more self-contained ones (Facebook, Twitter, Google, etc.) in a unified fashion -- and by the same token, relate back from an network-specific identifier (which in WebID's case is your URI, in PGP's your key, on others your user ID, etc.) back to those unified descriptions, so linked data can act as a universal bridge, or “social babel fish”, if you like.
> It’s not magical or especially clever, but as not many people have sat and thought practically about how to do it with the tools we have to hand, some thought experiments and sketches hurt little…
> M.
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