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Re: WebID with XMPP, SIP, ...?

From: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:51:58 +0100
Cc: public-xg-webid <public-xg-webid@w3.org>
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To: elf Pavlik <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>

On 17 Dec 2011, at 11:40, elf Pavlik wrote:

> Hello,
> In one of recent emails Peter have mentioned something about using WebID with SIP. From FSW Summit in Berlin I remember XMPPWebID project:
> http://xmppwebid.github.com/xmppwebid/doc/introduction.html
> http://d-cent.org/fsw2011/wp-content/uploads/fsw2011-WebID-enabled-XMPP-a-bridge-to-the-social-web-on-your-IM-and-beyond.pdf

I think I missed that one, thanks

> How about making a page on a wiki for it? 'WebID beyond HTTP' maybe?

I think that is a very good idea.

> What do you think about mentioning possibility of protocols other than HTTP in the spec?

If you look at the spec, it currently covers all TLS based client->server connections. Does that cover your case?

What goes into the spec should be determined by the number of implementations and the size of the community. We also need
to be able to make a reasonable claim for simplicity at first. In other words: we know WebID can go beyond what is in the spec,
but we don't want to put it in all at once. What we need to put in is what we have assured interoperability for - which 
is why I am also for a flexible test structure to demonstrate this. This is  exactly how HTML evolved: simple initially to 
make it possible to have interoperability, then slowly as standards were solidly set growth. I think all standards do that. 
You can see now how advanced HTML5 is compared to the non specced html that Tim Berners Lee came up with.

 So I think entries in the wiki are very good. They should mention that they are initial ideas, for people then to build
consensus on. So it's partly up to you for example to build consensus in the XMPP community. 


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