- From: David Leal <david.leal@caesarsystems.co.uk>
- Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:34:28 +0100
- To: "Bohms, H.M. (Michel)" <michel.bohms@tno.nl>
- Cc: public-xg-w3pm@w3.org
Dear All, Michel's three top items seem to be a good starting point. (Another minor procedural point - I would like to suggest using N3 rather than XML for RDF examples wherever possible.) I have some initial thoughts on quantities and units, as follows: Quantities and Units -------------------- Introduction ------------ A good starting for looking at Quantities and Units is "An Ontology for Engineering Mathematics", Thomas R. Gruber and Gregory R. Olsen, 1994, http://www-ksl.stanford.edu/knowledge-sharing/papers/engmath.html. Summarising some of the key concepts we have: - physical quantity as defined in ISO 31, e.g. length of 10 metre, thermodynamic temperature of 20 degrees Celsius - spaces of related physical quantities, e.g. length, thermodynamic temperature - defined points (units) within a space of physical quantities, e.g. the_metre, the_Kelvin - scales which relate spaces of physical quantities to real numbers, e.g. metre_scale, Kelvin_scale, Celsius An issue which causes some problems is the relationship between units (e.g. the_metre, the_Kelvin) and scales (e.g. metre_scale, Kelvin_scale, Celsius). Gruber and Olsen point out that they can be related by lambda calculus. The concepts in RDF ------------------- If we are happy that a mathematical structure, such as manifold, metric space, vector space, etc., is an owl:Class (a big "if"), then we can say: :PhysicalQuantitySpace rdfs:subClassOf owl:Class . :Length a :PhysicalQuantitySpace . :ThermodynamicTemperature a :PhysicalQuantitySpace . :TheMetre a :Length . :TheKelvin a :ThermodynamicTemperature . :metreScale a owl:DatatypeProperty rdfs:domain :Length . :kelvinScale a owl:DatatypeProperty rdfs:domain :ThermodyanmicTemperature . :celsius a owl:DatatypeProperty rdfs:domain :ThermodyanmicTemperature . Recording the relationship between :TheMetre and :metreScale requires MathML, or an RDF version of it. The following are true statements by definition: :TheMetre :metreScale 1 . :TheKelvin :kelvinScale 1 . An example ---------- If we assume that waterline length is a property of a ship, then we can define it as: :waterlineLength a owl:FunctionalProperty ; rdfs:domain :Ship ; rdfs:range :Length . and make the statement: :MyShip :waterlineLength [ :metreScale 10 ] . Ownership of concepts --------------------- Within ISO, I am trying to get ISO TC184/SC4 and other technical committees to assign URIs to the objects they define. The concepts of PhysicalQuantitySpace, Length and ThermodynamicTemperature are all defined in ISO 31, and it would be good if they were assigned a URI by ISO 31. The concepts of TheMetre, TheKelvin and Celsius are defined by BIPM, and it would be good if they were assigned a URI by BIPM. It is not clear to me who owns the concept of metreScale. Perhaps it is BIPM also. Perhaps the Incubator Group, with ISO TC184/SC4, could approach ISO and BIPM to get these URIs assigned by the organisations that define the concepts. The RDF formala which describes the relationships between the concepts can then be published by W3C. Best regards, David At 14:33 29/05/2008 +0200, you wrote: >Dear All, > >Hereby I send you a first input/scope document for our XG on Product Modelling. Please comment before the end of next week. Please comment globally that is: >- advice more potential modules >- say something about the importance of modules >- comment the current global ideas/notions >- add such notions without going in detail > >The idea is that after processing your comment I can make a scope document that we can all agree on. Next we can start the actual work/discussion on the prioritized modules in more detail at some KO telcon. > >The idea was to send this mail only to the member list but since there are still quite some TO-BE members (I only received a request for invited expert from David Leal sofar) I decided to use the public list to reach all interested (it's a scope thing anyway..). > >Looking forward to your feedback, > >Michel Böhms > > >tno.nl <blocked::blocked::http://www.tno.nl/> > >Dr H.M. (Michel) Böhms MSc >Consultant Building Innovation > > > >Van Mourik Broekmanweg 6, P.O. Box 49, NL-2600 AA Delft, The Netherlands > >T +31 15 2763107 > >F +31 15 2763024 > >M +31 6 30381220 >E michel.bohms@tno.nl <blocked::blocked::mailto:michel.bohms@tno.nl> > >Disclaimer <http://www.tno.nl/content.cfm?&context=overtno&content=overtnosub&laag1=282 &item_id=72&Taal=2> ============================================================ David Leal CAESAR Systems Limited 29 Somertrees Avenue Lee London SE12 0BS tel: +44 (0)20 8857 1095 mob: +44 (0)77 0702 6926 e-mail: david.leal@caesarsystems.co.uk web site: http://www.caesarsystems.co.uk ============================================================
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