- From: Simon Cox <simon.cox@jrc.ec.europa.eu>
- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:10:16 +0200
- To: "'Cory Henson'" <coryhenson@gmail.com>
- Cc: <Michael.Compton@csiro.au>, <public-xg-ssn@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <A5AB4DFAA8E445F8A0905D58E3BF0012@H07.jrc.it>
This is close, though perhaps still missing some detail.
Since abbreviated URLs are ambiguous in snippets that do not show base-url
declarations etc, I think the full example wuold be
<Description rdf:about="#foo"
rdf:type="http://example.org/O1#CompositePhenomenon">
...
<component rdf:resource="http://example.org/O1#R3"/>
...
</Description>
<Description rdf:about="#R3"
rdf:type="http://example.org/O1#SimplePhenomenon">
...
</Description>
<Description rdf:about="#foo_inst" rdf:type="http://example.org/O1#foo">
...
<value rdf:resource="http://example.org/O1# <http://example.org/O1#R3>
R3_inst"/>
...
</Description>
<Description rdf:about="#R3_inst" rdf:type="http://example.org/O1#R3">
<value>42.0</value>
</Description>
So both foo and foo_inst are composites, using references to R3 and R3_inst.
Simon Cox
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Institute for Environment and Sustainability,
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From: public-xg-ssn-request@w3.org [mailto:public-xg-ssn-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Cory Henson
Sent: Thursday, 13 August 2009 15:48
To: Simon Cox
Cc: Michael.Compton@csiro.au; public-xg-ssn@w3.org
Subject: Re: Survey paper
Understand, but wanted to make the jump to the data level so that I could
ask how these were translated to RDF. Perhaps I was sloppy in the example
and relied too heavily on the semantics of "..." (or too lazy to write a lot
of XML :) Below may be a better translation:
<Description rdf:about="#foo" rdf:type="CompositePhenomenon ">
...
<component rdf:resource="http://example.org/R3"/>
...
</Description>
<Description rdf:about="#R3_inst" rdf:type="R3">
<value>42.0</value>
</Description>
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Simon Cox <simon.cox@jrc.ec.europa.eu>
wrote:
Ah - I wonder if there is some crossed wires here.
Phenomenon and SWE Records are at different meta-levels, and appear in
different places in the O&M model.
1. The Phenomenon schema/model provides for the description of a phenomenon
type.
The 'observed-property' in O&M-speak. A column-heading in a conventional
tabular representation of a data-set.
2. the SWE Common schema provides for records to contain values.
The 'result' in O&M-speak. A cell contents in a conventional tabular
representation.
There is a link, of course, and a swe: record will typically point to the
Phenomenon instance that describes its structure and meaning.
But you do not find a swe:value inside a Phenomenon instance.
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Institute for Environment and Sustainability,
Spatial Data Infrastructures Unit, TP 262
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From: public-xg-ssn-request@w3.org [mailto:public-xg-ssn-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Cory Henson
Sent: Thursday, 13 August 2009 15:20
To: Simon Cox
Cc: Michael.Compton@csiro.au; public-xg-ssn@w3.org
Subject: Re: Survey paper
Simon,
How are data values translated to RDF? For example,
<CompositePhenomenon gml:id="foo">
...
<component xlink:href='http://example.org/R3'/
<http://example.org/R3%27/> >
...
</CompositePhenomenon>
...
<swe:encoding>
<swe:AsciiBlock decimalSeparator="." tokenSeparator=",", tupleSeparator="
"/>
</swe:encoding>
...
<swe:value>
... 42.0 ...
</swe:value>
to
<Description rdf:about="#foo" rdf:type="CompositePhenomenon ">
...
<component rdf:resource="http://example.org/R3"/>
...
</Description>
<Description rdf:about="#R3" rdf:type="...">
<value>42.0</value>
</Description>
I know there are different record formats (<swe:record>) that may be more
easily annotated, and thus provide a more clear translation, but in general
is there a standard way to map the values to RDF?
-Cory
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Simon Cox <simon.cox@jrc.ec.europa.eu>
wrote:
'model reference to a ontological description' vs 'composition by inclusion
of remote resources'
Not sure. The emphasis is a little different.
I understand the intention of 'annotation' is to add some richer
description, as an adjunct to something local.
The intention of the latter is not to have anything local, just a pointer to
a remote resource.
Augmenting vs deferring the description.
The mapping to RDF is straightforward.
GML was actually modelled on the RDF meta-model (though the XML syntax is
not the same - that's history).
Lower-case XML elements (e.g. component) are RDF properties, while the
upper-case XML elements (e.g. CompositePhenomenon) are RDF Resources.
So when you see
<CompositePhenomenon gml:id="foo">
...
<component xlink:href='http://example.org/R3'/
<http://example.org/R3%27/> >
...
</CompositePhenomenon>
think
<Description rdf:about="#foo" rdf:type="CompositePhenomenon ">
...
<component rdf:resource"http://example.org/R3"/>
...
</Description>
or
<Description rdf:about="#foo" rdf:type="CompositePhenomenon ">
...
<component>
<Description rdf:about="http://example.org/R3"
rdf:type="SimplePhenomenon>
... stuff ...
</Description>
</component>
...
</Description>
(Apologies for the dodgy RDF/XML.)
Simon Cox
European Commission, Joint Research Centre,
Institute for Environment and Sustainability,
Spatial Data Infrastructures Unit, TP 262
Via E. Fermi, 2749, I-21027 Ispra (VA), Italy
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From: public-xg-ssn-request@w3.org [mailto:public-xg-ssn-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Cory Henson
Sent: Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:27
To: Simon Cox
Cc: Michael.Compton@csiro.au; public-xg-ssn@w3.org
Subject: Re: Survey paper
Hi Simon,
Thanks for the comment. We are using the term semantic annotation as
described in SAWSDL, as a model reference to a ontological description.
Does this conflict with the description as a 'composition by inclusion of
remote resources'? As far as mapping to RDF, this is in comparison to RDFa
which has a known syntactic translation from the set of annotations to RDF
triples. While xlink:href maps to rdf:resource, how would the values of
properties of this resource be translated to RDF? If this is not correct, or
the wording is awkward, please point us in the right direction. Thanks for
your help.
-Cory
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Simon Cox <simon.cox@jrc.ec.europa.eu>
wrote:
Hi Mike -
A clarification relating to semantic annotations and xlink:
In GML-style XML documents, xlink:href plays the same role as rdf:resource
in an RDF/XML document.
I.e. it holds a pointer to external resource, which could be pasted inline
as an anonymous node with equivalent semantics.
This is a basic GML pattern and is explained in the GML spec
http://portal.opengeospatial.org/files/?artifact_id=20509 clause 7.2.3.
The examples involving xlink:href in Figure 2 aren't exactly 'annotations',
more 'composition by inclusion of remote resources'.
So I'm not sure if the example supports the point you are making.
You comment 'XLink has no predefined mapping to RDF.'
As mentioned above, _as used in GML documents_ xlink:href maps to
rdf:resource.
Simon Cox
European Commission, Joint Research Centre,
Institute for Environment and Sustainability,
Spatial Data Infrastructures Unit, TP 262
Via E. Fermi, 2749, I-21027 Ispra (VA), Italy
Tel: +39 0332 78 3652
Fax: +39 0332 78 6325
mailto:simon.cox@jrc.ec.europa.eu
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-----Original Message-----
From: public-xg-ssn-request@w3.org [mailto:public-xg-ssn-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Michael.Compton@csiro.au
Sent: Thursday, 13 August 2009 13:43
To: public-xg-ssn@w3.org
Subject: Survey paper
Hi all,
Sorry it's so close to the SSN'09 deadline, but with help from Cory and
Holger, I (finally) have a survey paper. Please read, comment, etc.
(there are a couple of obvious tweaks/FIXME's yet to be made)
Michael
--
Cory Andrew Henson
Kno.e.sis Center, Wright State University
http://knoesis.wright.edu/researchers/cory/
--
Cory Andrew Henson
Kno.e.sis Center, Wright State University
http://knoesis.wright.edu/researchers/cory/
--
Cory Andrew Henson
Kno.e.sis Center, Wright State University
http://knoesis.wright.edu/researchers/cory/
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