- From: Raphaël Troncy <Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl>
- Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:07:12 +0200
- To: MMSem-XG Public List <public-xg-mmsem@w3.org>
Dear all, The minutes of today's meeting are at http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html Please, note that the next telecon is scheduled for Thursday 16/11/2006, 16:00 UTC Jeff will organize an informal F2F meeting during ISWC 2006 in Athens, Georgia, USA. The minutes are also reproduced below ... Best. Raphaël --------------------- [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - W3C Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 26-10-2006, 16:00 UTC 26 Oct 2006 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Oct/0053.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-irc Attendees Present Raphael, Jacco, Jeff, Chris, Giovanni, Ovidio, Massimo, Suzanne, Yiannis Regrets Thomas_Franz, Susanne_Boll, Paola_Hobson, Ioannis_Pratikakis, Michael_Hausenblas, Stamatia, Melli, George, Patrizia Chair JeffP Scribe raphael, Jacco, Raphael, Raphael, Jacco Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]1. ADMIN 2. [6]admin 3. [7]2. LINKS Pages 4. [8]3. XG UPDATES 5. [9]3.1 Music Use Case 6. [10]3.2 News Use case 7. [11]3.3 Medical use case 8. [12]3.4 MPEG-7 metadata interoperability Use case 9. [13]3.5 Photo Use case: (Susanne) 10. [14]3.6 Semantic Multimedia Retrieval Use case: (Ioannis) 11. [15]3.7 Algorithm representation Use case: (Massimo, Patrizia, Ovidio) 12. [16]3.8 Tagging Use case: (George, Susanne, Thomas) 13. [17]4. Future Meetings 14. [18]5 AOB * [19]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ <pasquale> Hi Raphael, good morning <raphael> Thanks for updating the Resources page ! I have added some resources too <pasquale> yes ;-) thanks to you! <pasquale> unfortunately today i can only irc :-( <chalaschek> Hi Raphael, how are you <giovannit> piiiiing <giovannit> conference in 5 minutes? <giovannit> hi raphael :-) <giovannit> well the tools wiki page has started.. its not in bad shape. it wil lbecome better as we all update it when we find a new tool <giovannit> about the music use case.. its a difficult UC! :-) i am now editing to write how lame ID3 specs are. <giovannit> christian sends regrets <raphael> Giovanni, you can already take the big old list of the MM TF <raphael> Will it not better to do DOAP file for each tool ? and generate automatically the web page ? <giovannit> i have pointed at your list already (image annotations) <raphael> This should not point to, but replace ! <raphael> the old page will disappear soon :-) <raphael> Scribe: raphael zakim Giovanni is giovannit <giovannit> thanks raph 1. ADMIN admin PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 12 October 2006 telecon: ACCEPTED PROPOSED next telecon 9 November 2006: ACCEPTED 2. LINKS Pages <Jacco> Raphael: Vocabularies & resource wiki page start to look really good <Jacco> Others: if you have additions, do not send mail to list but edit these wiki pages <Jacco> Raphael: what about the tools pages? <Jacco> Giovanni, I've started working on it <Jacco> Used the old SWBPD page and added audio, video stuff <Jacco> Giovanni: I'm not sure DOAP files have added value... Use: [20]http://esw.w3.org/topic/SemanticWebDOAPBulletinBoard [20] http://esw.w3.org/topic/SemanticWebDOAPBulletinBoard <Jacco> Giovanni: not sure how to generate html file from RDF <Jacco> Raphael: see link above for DOAP to HTML <giovannit> proposal: an informal meeting at ISWC? <giovannit> "informal" ? PROPOSED next telecon 16 November 2006, and next one the 23rd November ACCEPTED <OS> Raphael, for us the 23rd is a problem <Jacco> ACTION: raphael to add the NewsML entry on the vocabularies wiki page: DONE [recorded in [21]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action01] <Jacco> ACTION: Pasquale to maintain the Resources page: DONE [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action02] <Jacco> ACTION: Michael to maintain the Vocabularies page: DONE [recorded in [23]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action03] <Jacco> ACTION: Giovanni and Christian to maintain the Tools page: DONE [recorded in [24]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action04] These actions are rather continuously pending until the end of this XG <Jacco> Giovanni: what about an informal meeting at ISWC? <scribe> ACTION: Jeff to arrange an informal F2F of the XG [recorded in [25]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action05] <Jacco> ACTION: Paul, Melli to do their wiki page: CONTINUED [recorded in [26]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action06] 3. XG UPDATES <Jacco> ACTION: ACTION: Thierry to do his wiki page: DONE [recorded in [27]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action07] Image Annotation on the Semantic Web <Jacco> ACTION: Raphael addresses the comments on "Image Annotation": CONTINUED [recorded in [28]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action08] I'm still working on the formatting issues <Jacco> jeff: are we still using the swbpd website? <Jacco> raphael: that should be changed too Use cases on Interoperability Problems: 3.1 Music Use Case <Jacco> raphael: main issue for this teleconf is to assign reviewers to each use case <Jacco> Giovanni: I asked my reviewers to wait a while Giovanni: my mind was to build a complete SW music application <Jacco> I've looked at ID3 version 1, version 2 seems like a mess Giovanni: now I have understood that we should focus on integrating musical vocabularies Turn ID3 into RDF ? but the values are still not controlled, a string and not a URI <Jacco> defining the semantics of the ID3 tags is easy, the values will be difficult <Jacco> some ID3 fields allow the use of controlled vocabularies <Jacco> giovanni: yes, you can, but what about existing metadata that doesn't giovanni: call for more volunteers in this use case <scribe> Scribe: Jacco, Raphael <Jacco> Giovanni: we need to find a balance between converting everything to RDF and have no RDF at all <Jacco> Raphael: exactly, and the use case need to show that balance <Jacco> ACTION: Jacco to review music use case [recorded in [29]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action09] <Jacco> ACTION: Raphael to ask UPF to review music use case [recorded in [30]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action10] 3.2 News Use case <Jacco> Raphael: Thierry and Chris are also editing this use case now <Jacco> We will have more now that IPTC members have become members too <Jacco> We have presented a use case and shown how it can be represented in NewsML and a boradcast format <Jacco> and show how this can be better represented in OWL, with example DL reasoning <JeffP> [31]http://infolab.northwestern.edu/project.asp?id=40 [31] http://infolab.northwestern.edu/project.asp?id=40 <Jacco> Jeff: what about News At Seven project, see link above? <Jacco> Raphael: we mentioned it in the wiki page <Jacco> anyone on IRC that likes to review the news use case? <Jacco> ACTION: Jeff to review use case [recorded in [32]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action11] <OS> which one? <JeffP> the News <OS> we are more interested in the MPEG-7 one 3.3 Medical use case <Jacco> Melli is not here... 3.4 MPEG-7 metadata interoperability Use case <Jacco> Raphael: I provided comments already, it seems to be a mature use case <Jacco> ACTION: Suzanne to review MPEG7 use case by next teleconf [recorded in [33]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action12] 3.5 Photo Use case: (Susanne) <Jacco> Suzanne Boll is not here 3.6 Semantic Multimedia Retrieval Use case: (Ioannis) <Jacco> Ioannis is not here, Raphael sent in comment by the mail list today 3.7 Algorithm representation Use case: (Massimo, Patrizia, Ovidio) <Jacco> Massimo: thanks for the comments Raphael I proposed a possible collaboration with Melli <Jacco> Could even become a single use case? 3.8 Tagging Use case: (George, Susanne, Thomas) <Jacco> George is not here but sent a status update to the list <Jacco> Jeff: should we have a key aspect the reviewers of all use cases do focus on? <Jacco> Like identify common problems or interoperability issues across use cases <Jacco> We need to be able to draw some conclusions at the end <Jacco> having these issues explcicit would make the life of use case authors and reviewers easier <Jacco> giovanni: one could review how much effort the use case requires and how realistic it is <Jacco> ... and how existing "legacy" metadata fits into the scenario <Jacco> Jeff: we could start discussing this on the mailing list <Jacco> Raphael: yes, but Vassilis needs to take the lead in this <JeffP> [34]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/talks/ICANN2006/Overview. html#(11) [34] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/talks/ICANN2006/Overview.html#(11) <Jacco> ACTION: Vassilis to lead discussion on organizing common aspects of all use cases [recorded in [35]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action13] 4. Future Meetings <JeffP> [36]http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39139/MMSEM-FTF02/results [36] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39139/MMSEM-FTF02/results <Jacco> ACTION: Jacco, CNR, others to fill in the f2f form [recorded in [37]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action14] <Jacco> Giovanni: I cannot make the f2f <Jacco> Jacco: I like to attend via teleconf too <Jacco> Yannis: there are two days, Friday there is a room at the SAMT venue <scribe> ACTION: Raphael to send the details of the F2F [recorded in [38]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action15] Meeting Venue Friday: SAMT conference hotel, [39]http://www.divanis.com/acropolis/default-en.htm [39] http://www.divanis.com/acropolis/default-en.htm Saturday: NTUA campus <Jacco> There will be wireless connection at the conf hotel Book your flight tickets and hotel now, since the Divanis hotel will be full <Jacco> On Saturday their will be a room at the campus <Jacco> Yannis: there is a special rate for conf. participants there is a reduced price of 100 euros, single or double room precising SAMT <Jacco> see samt website before November 5th for the Hotel registration 5 AOB <Jacco> none <giovannit> bye bye <Jacco> Scribe: Raphael, Jacco Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Jacco to review music use case [recorded in [40]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action09] [NEW] ACTION: Jacco, CNR, others to fill in the f2f form [recorded in [41]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action14] [NEW] ACTION: Jeff to arrange an informal F2F of the XG [recorded in [42]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action05] [NEW] ACTION: Jeff to review use case [recorded in [43]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action11] [NEW] ACTION: Raphael to ask UPF to review music use case [recorded in [44]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action10] [NEW] ACTION: Raphael to send the details of the F2F [recorded in [45]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action15] [NEW] ACTION: Suzanne to review MPEG7 use case by next teleconf [recorded in [46]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action12] [NEW] ACTION: Vassilis to lead discussion on organizing common aspects of all use cases [recorded in [47]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action13] [PENDING] ACTION: Paul, Melli to do their wiki page [recorded in [48]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action06] [PENDING] ACTION: Raphael addresses the comments on "Image Annotation" [recorded in [49]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action08] [DONE] ACTION: Giovanni and Christian to maintain the Tools page [recorded in [50]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action04] [DONE] ACTION: Michael to maintain the Vocabularies page [recorded in [51]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action03] [DONE] ACTION: Pasquale to maintain the Resources page [recorded in [52]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action02] [DONE] ACTION: raphael to add the NewsML entry on the vocabularies wiki page [recorded in [53]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action01] [DONE] ACTION: Thierry to do his wiki page [recorded in [54]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action07] [End of minutes] -- Raphaël Troncy CWI (Centre for Mathematics and Computer Science), Kruislaan 413, 1098 SJ Amsterdam, The Netherlands e-mail: raphael.troncy@cwi.nl & raphael.troncy@gmail.com Tel: +31 (0)20 - 592 4093 Fax: +31 (0)20 - 592 4312 Web: http://www.cwi.nl/~troncy/
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