- From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:36:55 +0200
- To: public-xg-lld <public-xg-lld@w3.org>
Hi Marcia, [...] > BTW, the order of the bullet list used in the side deliverable is > reversed: Datasets, Value Vocabularies and Metadata Element Sets. Done: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_Vocabularies_Datasets_Section2&diff=5825&oldid=5816 Thanks for the warning, Antoine > > Marcia > > On 8/20/11 10:55 AM, "Antoine Isaac"<aisaac@few.vu.nl> wrote: > >> Hi Jodi, >> >> OK, I see the issue. Indeed the appendix on available data is a bit >> unbalanced now, as it results from putting aside two things that were in >> one bigger section before (together with the bits on "data availability" >> that are in the "current situation" now): >> - a brief presentation of the report >> - more details on the issue of semantic connections (alignments). >> >> I can't really think of a way to introduce them in an elegant way. These >> are basically left-overs, but left-overs that are important, and refered >> to from the main report body. I hope readers will access them from that >> main report that cites them. I also count on the fact that readers would >> be less demanding, for a more technical appendix. >> >> And I'd be reluctant to remove them. It's good to have a teaser for the >> side deliverable on data. And the part on alignment issues is quite >> important. In fact via the blog comments we've been asked to write even >> more on it... >> >> Cheers, >> >> Antoine >> >> >>> Thanks, Antoine! I think that's really nice! >>> >>> I think I was mainly confused because there are two subsubsections >>> there, under the heading "Available Vocabularies and Datasets": >>> -An inventory of existing library linked data resources >>> -The linking issue >>> Are these two subsections part of some larger whole? If so *that*, to >>> me, is what requires an introduction (i.e. explaining the larger whole). >>> Alternately, perhaps they are each subsections, and we can get rid of >>> the heading "Available Vocabularies and Datasets"? >>> >>> -Jodi >>> >>> On 19 Aug 2011, at 22:02, Antoine Isaac wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Jodi, >>>> >>>> I feel there was already a kind of introduction in the section you're >>>> pointing at. Anyway, as it was missing some of your point, I've >>>> extended it: the result can be seen at >>>> >>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_Vocabula >>>> ries_Datasets_Section2&diff=5795&oldid=5777 >>>> I hope it is better now! >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Antoine >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Antoine -- sorry I wasn't clear. >>>>> >>>>> It's here: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportWithTransclusion#A >>>>> vailable_Vocabularies_and_Datasets >>>>> (aka this section: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_Vocabularies_Datasets_S >>>>> ection2 ) >>>>> >>>>> The inventory isn't introduced. I think it would help to explain why >>>>> it's important and why people should read it. >>>>> >>>>> :) -Jodi >>>>> >>>>> On 17 Aug 2011, at 23:30, Antoine Isaac wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Jodi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the feedback! I think these are good ideas to take >>>>>> onboard, but as the material on available data has changed quite a >>>>>> lot in the past weeks, I'd like to be sure for which part, you'd >>>>>> suggest this introductory paragraph :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> - the "Data availability" sub-section (in "current situation") of >>>>>> the main report >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportWithTransclusion# >>>>>> Data_availability >>>>>> has a small introduction >>>>>> [ >>>>>> The success of linked library data relies on the ability of its >>>>>> practitioners to identify, re-use or connect to existing datasets and >>>>>> data models. Linked datasets and vocabularies that are essential in >>>>>> the library and related domains, however, have previously been >>>>>> unknown or unfamiliar to many. The LLD XG has thus initiated an >>>>>> inventory of available library-related linked data, which is >>>>>> presented in further detail in Section @@TODO@@ and has lead to the >>>>>> observations below. >>>>>> ] >>>>>> >>>>>> - the "Available Vocabularies and Datasets" technical section at the >>>>>> end of the main report >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportWithTransclusion# >>>>>> Available_Vocabularies_and_Datasets >>>>>> also has stuff presenting the inventory >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree that both may not address all your points. But together they >>>>>> already give a lot. If I'm to adapt one of them, which one would you >>>>>> recommend? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Antoine >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Antoine! :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think it would be useful to add an introductory paragraph to the >>>>>>> inventory, giving a motivation for providing it. Motivations might >>>>>>> include >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -having a convenient place for librarians to become more familiar >>>>>>> with key vocabularies >>>>>>> --due to general lack of familiarity >>>>>>> --due to the importance of reusing vocabularies >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -showing the adoption of semweb and the maturity of existing >>>>>>> vocabularies >>>>>>> --there are many areas with mature vocabularies >>>>>>> --there are other areas where libraries could participate in the >>>>>>> innovation if they desire >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe there are other reasons? The intro would help clarify the >>>>>>> importance of this section in the whole report, as well as indicate >>>>>>> the appropriate audience for it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Jodi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12 Aug 2011, at 23:23, Antoine Isaac wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In the last telecon it was agreed that the former "available data" >>>>>>>> section [1] could live in the final report, on the condition that >>>>>>>> it is split in two parts: >>>>>>>> - one fitting the new "current situation" section [2] >>>>>>>> - the other being put at the end of the report, to give more >>>>>>>> details [3] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To address complains about the length of the proposed sub-section >>>>>>>> for "current situation", I've tried to shorten it, and put some of >>>>>>>> the material in the separate section at the end [5]. I've also >>>>>>>> created a small intro in the "current situation" sub-section, which >>>>>>>> refers to our survey and the appendix section. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Feedback is much welcome. The paragraphs are still the longest >>>>>>>> ones in the "current situation" section, but I do hope they fit >>>>>>>> better now... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Antoine >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_Voca >>>>>>>> bularies_Datasets_Section&oldid=5672 >>>>>>>> [2] >>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportWithTransclusio >>>>>>>> n-Multiple_Reports#Data_availability >>>>>>>> [3] >>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportWithTransclusio >>>>>>>> n-Multiple_Reports#Available_Vocabularies_and_Datasets >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [4]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_V >>>>>>>> ocabularies_Datasets_As_Current_Situation&diff=5753&oldid=5670 >>>>>>>> [5] >>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Draft_Voca >>>>>>>> bularies_Datasets_Section2&diff=5754&oldid=5710 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >
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