- From: Jodi Schneider <jodi.schneider@deri.org>
- Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:29:28 +0100
- To: public-xg-lld <public-xg-lld@w3.org>
I'm wondering if we're ready to create a wiki page for use cases, even if we're not yet sure how we'll format/share them in the future. I think it's going to be easier to keep track of these as we go along than fish them out of the listserv later. (Thanks, Tom, btw, for the useful ideas!) -Jodi On 27 Jun 2010, at 13:04, Matola, Tod wrote: > Hello, > > Looking over Ed's talk [1] I was able to name another case or two > > - Bibliographic Networks, use Linked Data to reflect the relationships > across the FRBR entities. Link editions, translations, media formats. Link > people to all of their works. So discovery is better, delivery is > better,.... > (NOTE: I hope I'm using network in the right context here.) > > - Link Social Bibliography to a Bibliographic Network. Link reveiws, tags, > lists, cover art to a work. This seems like a variation on the enrich a > record use case. > > Cheers Tod. > > [1] http://inkdroid.org/journal/2010/06/24/confessions-of-a-graph-addict/ > > On 6/24/10 7:56 AM, "Matola, Tod" <matolat@oclc.org> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> We could look at these 2 cases? >> >> 1) the Swedish Union Catalogue [1] - enrich a record (point to dbpedia) >> 2) Linking to authority data [2] [3] [4]. >> >> >> [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.culture.libraries.ngc4lib/4617 >> [2] https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1004&L=NGC4LIB&T=0&F=&S=&P=31709 >> [3] http://outgoing.typepad.com/outgoing/2009/09/viaf-as-linked-data.html >> [4] http://id.loc.gov/authorities/ >> >> Cheers Tod. >> >> >> On 6/23/10 3:38 PM, "Antoine Isaac" <aisaac@few.vu.nl> wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> Thanks for starting the discussion indeed! >>> >>> I had the same feeling as Emmanuelle re. the abstraction of the use cases of >>> the Prov XG. I wouldn't refuse generic stuff, on the other hand. Our group is >>> also to prepare the future, it would be nice if we could have some innovative >>> scenarios as well. >>> >>> Also, a constraint I'd be reluctant to impose is the "usage" aspect. While it >>> is a crucial part of our mission, it could be that many institutions around >>> us >>> are just happy with publishing data (as part of a knowledge provider mission) >>> and not developing new and complex usages themselves. >>> >>> To sum it up I think we should both accommodate both generic, possibly very >>> innovative "use cases" and concrete, maybe less ambitious "realizations". I >>> guess I'm in line with what Jodi hinted, here. >>> >>> In fact in SKOS we used the term "use cases", but we had a mixture of already >>> implemented things and projects being still investigated. >>> One crucial point is that all of them were starting from *existing data*. >>> Would it be realistic to require a similar "reality check" constraint from >>> the >>> (use) cases we want to have? Or do you prefer to allow complete freedom? >>> >>> >>> I'm quite sure that the "existing work" section that Kai's template feature >>> could provide the hook for realizations. We'd just have to extend it a bit, >>> maybe with some of the fields of the SKOS template [1] (I agree we don't need >>> all the "describe your vocabularies" questions in the SKOS template). >>> >>> I also really like some of the curation guidelines [3]. If we sent the >>> template as a questionnaire to the community, we should try to use them to >>> make the questions more precise! >>> >>> Finally, there are two questions that I like in the SWEO template: >>>> 7. Conclusions, which included a bulleted list of the main benefits of the >>>> Semantic Web for your organization. >>>> 8. It would be ideal if you could provide a quote from your senior >>>> management >>>> as to how the Semantic Web solution provides additional value. >>> >>> >>> Maybe we don't need two categories, but I think it would be nice to get some >>> motivational talk for the cases, beyond the technical description! >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Antoine >>> >>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/UCFormat >>> [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/UseCases/ >>> [3] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/UCCuration >>> >>>> Thanks for getting this conversation started, Emmanuelle--and thanks, >>>> Kai, for giving us something concrete to work with! >>>> >>>> On 22 Jun 2010, at 21:57, Emmanuelle Bermes wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> Some comments and questions regarding the Use Case Template [1]. >>>>> >>>>> First a very general comment : it is not really clear to me if we're >>>>> looking for use cases scenarios (services that we imagine could be >>>>> created), or use cases that provide a feedback on actual >>>>> implentations, projects, etc. that are undertaken in libraries. In the >>>>> charter, it looks like the latter was intended. >>>> >>>> The main thing that stands out to me in the charter is >>>> "help increase global interoperability of library data on the Web" >>>> For me, this means taking a larger systems view, to ensure >>>> interoperability beyond libraries. I'm very much in favor of soliciting >>>> use cases for library/cultural heritage data widely, and hope we'll get >>>> feedback from 'superpatrons' who want to use the data, as well as from >>>> other organizations and businesses who may integrate bibliographic >>>> details in their own environment. >>>> >>>> Perhaps we're conflating multiple tasks? From what you say next, I start >>>> to think that two related efforts could be useful: >>>> >>>>> What I understood from last telecon was that in the Provenance group, >>>>> the use cases were more theoretical, and were consolidated in a few >>>>> scenarios. >>>>> In the SWEO use cases [2], it is rather about describing an existing >>>>> project/implementation. >>>>> In the end, I think both ways are interesting, but I would be in favor >>>>> of a specific section in the template to express if the use-case was >>>>> implemented, by whom, and what was the outcome : was it successful, >>>>> or not, and why. >>>> >>>> As you mention, besides use cases, we could (separately) _inventory >>>> existing *uses*_. Identifying existing Linked Data projects and >>>> implementations in libraries, archives, museums, etc... >>>>> >>>>> Small comment on the introduction of the template : >>>>> "It should not be confused with specifying the technology itself: a >>>>> use case may allow for many alternatives to achieving user needs." >>>>> I wonder if really fits our goals : we want use cases that show how >>>>> Linked data can help libraries achieve their tasks, not generic use >>>>> cases for library tasks. >>>> >>>> I think this could be clarified, but it helps to look, also, at the >>>> previous line: >>>> >>>> "A use case describes what a user can do with a system, by specifying a >>>> sequence of interactions between user and system leading to a desirable >>>> outcome." >>>> >>>> That is, a use case is not an implementation. I agree that Linked Data >>>> could be mentioned here for clarity! >>>> >>>>> Here again, I think our focus is different from Provenance XG. For >>>>> them, Linked Data is the context, and provenance data is the goal. For >>>>> us, library data is the context, and Linked Data is the goal. Quite >>>>> the opposite ;-) >>>> >>>> Nicely said! >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regarding dimensions : related to my previous comments, I think we >>>>> need to define library dimensions rather than Linked data dimensions. >>>>> for instance I would suggest dimensions such as : >>>>> - library catalogues for users : >>>>> -- bibliographic data >>>>> -- thesauri, authorities >>>>> -- collaborative data (reviews, comments, tags) >>>>> - library data exchanges (between libraries, B2B) >>>>> - management data >>>>> -- user logs or usage data >>>>> -- loan information >>>>> -- administrative & preservation metadata >>>>> -etc. >>>>> These are just a few ideas as a starting point. >>>> >>>> These make sense to me, and I think you've highlighted the important >>>> aspects from the library "business" perspective! We can give more >>>> thought, then, to external uses and data exchanges. And determine >>>> whether cultural heritage gives us additional dimensions (i.e. is rights >>>> metadata worth its own category). >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Emmanuelle >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/UCTemplate1 >>>>> [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/UseCases/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> -Jodi >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> Cheers Tod > > > Cheers Tod > -- > “OS/360 is like a cow.” It’s not the most beautiful or efficient, and many > people think they can design a better one. But if you put hay and water in > one end, you get fertilizer from the other end and milk from the middle. You > can use it effectively if you recognize its limitations and remember which > end is which. -- Harlan Mills > > >
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