- From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
- Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:08:02 +0200
- To: public-xg-lld <public-xg-lld@w3.org>
Hi Marcia, Trying to revive that before this afternoon's discussion... I agree with the importance of exploring, but can't it be just merged with "browse"? Btw there were still some elements remaining from our discussion at [1] which I have tried to fit in the dimensions [2], assuming that Gordon's silence was agreement ;-) Cheers, Antoine [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2010Jul/0022.html [2] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Dimensions > Thanks for all the great work on getting the USE CASE template there. > > At the *Dimensions *page, currently the template has: > > * Users needs > o Identify > o Browse > o Access > o Retrieve > o Integrate > > Suggest to add: > . Explore > > The current listed users needs seemed to be good for the bibliographic > data. If it is for subject authority data, there should be an ‘Explore’ > added. It is a task included in FRSAD (Functional Requirements for > Subject Authority Data, which is released [1] and will be published by > IFLA). Gordon already mentioned this in his email (see his 7/8/10 > email). He has the best overview of all three FRBR family models’ > harmonization, which also includes the user tasks identified by three > models. > > Users use subject authority data (e.g. any thesaurus, subject headings > list, taxonomy, classification...) to explore relationships between > subjects and/or their appellations (e.g., to explore relationships in > order to understand the structure of a subject domain and its > terminology). This task is seen not only among information professionals > but also end-users. The task was introduced by FRSAR Working Group based > on a subject authority data use survey which received nearly 800 > responses worldwide. [2] > > Marcia > > [1] http://www.ifla.org/node/1297 > [2] /Ibid/., p. 33 and p.36. > > On 7/12/10 5:21 PM, "Antoine Isaac" <aisaac@few.vu.nl> wrote: > > Hi Emmanuelle, > > > > I've started the work on merging the templates as intended in our > last call. > > I didn't create a new page, but rather improve the existing one, as > > the changes were very limited (introduction + dimensions). Also we can > > always roll back to an older version. > > > > So the following 3 pages have changed : > > [1] merged the introductions and changed the "Linked data > dimensions" paragraph > > [2] added references to the rationale page > > [3] simplified the dimensions page. > > > > There is still work to be done on the dimensions' content. > > > > Feedback welcome > > > > Cheers > > Emmanuelle > > > Thanks a lot for this! Now that I read the text you've moved to the > intro of the template [1], it really looks like we-could re-use it > almost as such for the wider call for use case we envision :-) > > Re. feedback on the content of the template, my most important > comment concerns the use of the "dimensions" at [3] in the sections > of the use case template [1]. > My first understanding of the "library linked data dimension" > section, based on the "dimensions" of the Prov XG [4] initially > there [5], is that this section would be rather technical, > implementation-driven. In fact, to me the examples for filling the > "library linked data dimension" section should come from the > "topics" that we assembled over the past weeks (now at [6]). [4] is > really closer from [6] than it is from [3]. > > I tried to point in the last call that our use case dimensions at > [3] would be most useful for "stimulating" (re-using Stu's perfectly > fitting word) the filling of the "use case" section. And I still > believe it should be the case, looking at the instruction you left > for that section: > [The use case scenario itself, described as a story in which actors > interact with systems, each other etc. It should show who is using > linked data technology and for what purpose. Please mark the key > steps which show requirements on linked data in italics. > ] > I think all the categories at [3] can fall in this description. > Maybe only "systems" may fall as well in the "background and current > practice" section. > > > Now, I think the point on which we fundamentally agree (and which > may explain the above disagreement ;-) ) is that *the "use case > dimensions" at [3] should stimulate something that comes before what > the "linked data topics" at [6] would stimulate*. > The more I look at it, the more I wonder why the Prov XG had put > their "provenance dimensions" before their "goal" and "use case > scenario". I can see a logic here, but it's one of someone with a > quite clear view on the domain's technical points--the Prov XG > provided the UCs themselves--not necessarily the one of a true > application owner (i.e., "business"-oriented). > > > I would thus suggest to have the following order: > 1. Name; 2. Owner; 3. Background and Current Practice; 4. Goal; 5. > Use Case Scenario [suggesting the use case dimensions at [3]); 6. > Problems and Limitations; 7. Library Linked Data Dimensions > (pointing to the topics at [6]; 8 Unanticipated Uses (optional); 9 > Existing Work (optional) > > This could have the benefit of illustrating the natural > complementarity between "problems and limitations" and "LLD > dimensions". For many of the Prov XG's use cases, I feel that it is > the informal gathering of problems that leads to the more formal > identifications of the dimensions. > > Would people around here agree? > > > On a much smaller scale, I was not so-happy with making the > distinction between "devices" and "communication" in the use cases > dimensions at [3]. There is a distinction indeed, but I'm not sure > we want to get that granularity here. > > But as said it is indeed much less important, and I realize I've > already written one page on the order of the sections of the > template alone so I'll stop here :-) > > Cheers, > > Antoine > > [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/UCTemplate1 > [2] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/UCRationale > [3] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Dimensions > [4] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Provenance_Dimensions > [5] > http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=UCTemplate1&oldid=86#Linked_Data_Dimensions > <http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=UCTemplate1&oldid=86#Linked_Data_Dimensions> > [6] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Topics3 > > > > Hi all, > > > > I've started the work on merging the templates as intended in our > last call. > > I didn't create a new page, but rather improve the existing one, as > > the changes were very limited (introduction + dimensions). Also we can > > always roll back to an older version. > > > > So the following 3 pages have changed : > > [1] merged the introductions and changed the "Linked data > dimensions" paragraph > > [2] added references to the rationale page > > [3] simplified the dimensions page. > > > > There is still work to be done on the dimensions' content. > > > > Feedback welcome > > > > Cheers > > Emmanuelle > > > > [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/UCTemplate1 > > [2] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/UCRationale > > [3] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Dimensions > > > > > > >
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