- From: Ross Singer <ross.singer@talis.com>
- Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:30:51 -0400
- To: public-xg-lld@w3.org
Hello all,
The minutes for the call yesterday are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/08/19-lld-minutes.html
Many thanks to Antoine and everybody that helped me fumble my way
through scribing.
Here is a text version of transcript:
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
LLD XG
19 Aug 2010
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2010Aug/0073.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2010/08/19-lld-irc
Attendees
Present
TomB, emma, antoine, MarkVanAssem, marcia, GordonD, monica,
edsu, bvatant, kcoyle, rsinger, Wolfgang, jon, michaelp,
jneubert, Kai
Regrets
Tod, Andreas, Alexander, Kim, Ray, Oreste, Guenther
Chair
Tom
Scribe
Ross
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Admin
2. [6]F2F Meetings
3. [7]Use cases
4. [8]LLD Topic List
5. [9]NISO Institutional Identifier (I2) working group
6. [10]Library Data resources, and Library Terminology pages
7. [11]Reports from IFLA
8. [12]next telecon
* [13]Summary of Action Items
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<TomB> scribe: rsinger
<TomB> scribenick: rsinger
Admin
Propose to accept minutes?
RESOLUTION: To accept meeting minutes of previous telecon:
[14]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/29-lld-minu
tes.html
[14] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/29-lld-minutes.html
F2F Meetings
TomB:: Meeting in Pittsburgh around DC2010
... Looking for next actions in the LLD space
... What has/has not worked in the DCMI Abstract Model
... How to move forward constructively
... Sat/Sun, have a meeting room @ DC2010
... no registration fee
... wireless costs $350/day
... $10-15/person to provide wireless for the day
<kcoyle> ++ pass the hat
<edsu> +1
<GordonD> +1
TomB: I will send a proposal to the list
<marcia> +1
TomB: will convene by noon(?) on Sunday so people can catch flights
... discussion continues re: F2F at SWIB in Cologne
Use cases
TomB: any comments on selections of links and the way they're
characterized?
... update schedule
TomB: who wants to take the lead on the use cases?
kcoyle: What do we need to do?
... it would be great to know what goes in each part of the use case
/ many things being left blank
... there are very large use cases, like how we deal with legacy
data, are those appropriate as use cases?
emma: we need to test use case template within the group
kcoyle: on the use case notes page, we can put an FAQ?
antoine: we can use the discussion section of the use case template
page
<emma> +1
antoine: this was kai's suggestion
kcoyle: we should note this somewhere
<TomB> Karen and Antoine propose to use
[15]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Talk:Use_Case_Template
[15] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Talk:Use_Case_Template
kcoyle: i will add a note to the use case template to use the
discussion section
<GordonD> next week's telecon islast chance to discuss use cases
before end august deadline, so +1 to use wiki between now and then -
assuming we stick to deadline
<antoine> kcoyle ++
<bvatant> +1
<GordonD> +1 for karen's suggestion
<marcia> +1
<antoine> ->
[16]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_Publishing_20
th_Century_Press_Archives
[16] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_Publishing_20th_Century_Press_Archives
<antoine> -> jneubert's use case
emma: jneubert has added two sections to template
<monica> emma: joachim has added some sections to his template
<antoine> +1 for including prototype in "Existing Work" but
explaining it in the template
jneubert: it is not only about technology but applications or
prototypes in template
... in the Existing Work section
michaelp: go through the use cases one by one in a telecon so we can
all contribute to filling the blanks to give input to the use case
creators
<TomB> +1 michaelp's suggestion
michaelp: the target audience really depends on the use case, in
jneubert's case it is really an application, in other cases, it's
really a task
<emma> +1 to comment the use cases 1 by 1
antoine: use next teleconf to discuss the use cases
... wanted to mention jneubert's use case
TomB: the schedule
... we are still at the gathering and development of scenarios
<GordonD> it would be useful for me to extend schedule
TomB: should we revise expectations?
<kcoyle> yes
<GordonD> +1
<monica> +1
<bvatant> +1
<kcoyle> Sep 15?
<michaelp> +1
ACTION: Everyone to create use cases on the "use case note" page
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/UseCaseNotes . Not more
than 2 persons per case. Deadline august 25. [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/29-lld-minu
tes.html#action04] [CONTINUES]
[17] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/29-lld-minutes.html#action04
antoine: kcoyle asks if the deadline can be extended until sep. 15th
<TomB> +1 for extending deadline
antoine: there can be contribution after the next teleconf
<kcoyle> ok, i agree
<bvatant> ok for this
<GordonD> thanx for clarification from antoine
kai: Are there more ideas for extensions to the template?
TomB: there was general approval of jneubert's additions
... look at specific use cases/examples and use those examples to
make decisions how to modify templates
kai: i like the new sections, we'll have a deeper look and discuss
next time
<antoine> re. joachim's new section, for one of them (prototype)
could be in Existing work but explicitly documented in the template
instruction for that section
LLD Topic List
kcoyle: the topic list hasn't been refined in a while. do we want
further refinement? it is still very informal
TomB: will be put on the agenda in Pittsburgh
<antoine> +1
NISO Institutional Identifier (I2) working group
marcia: Already submitted
<marcia> [18]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/NISO-I2
[18] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/NISO-I2
marcia: recorded in wiki page
ACTION: Marcia to send (informal) group's comment on I2 before the
deadline for comments [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/29-lld-minu
tes.html#action05] [DONE]
[19] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/29-lld-minutes.html#action05
marcia: sent note to mailing list referring to:
[20]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/NISO-I2
[20] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/NISO-I2
TomB: send it to our list as well, just for the public record
ACTION: marcia to post I2 comments to LLD list [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2010/08/19-lld-minutes.html#action02]
[21] http://www.w3.org/2010/08/19-lld-minutes.html#action02
Library Data resources, and Library Terminology pages
kcoyle: there is room for other bullet points on the library data
resources wiki page
... this grew very quickly. we have begun one of the possible tasks.
... a vision of what the range is of library that we need to
incorporate into our thinking of linked data
... came out of work I was doing with OpenLibrary - libraries have
their own language - so we use terms that librarians understand, but
no one else
... these aren't formal definitions, helps people understand what
librarians mean
... encourage people on the public list to contribute
... started to gather together lists of vocabularies already in use
for library linked data
Reports from IFLA
GordonD: IFLA was productive from the LLD perspective - started
putting some info. out on the mailing list
... on the FRBR stuff, hoping to be able to put something out within
2-3 weeks
... also release an unbounded set of properties and see what happens
with community uptake
<bvatant>
[22]http://www.slideshare.net/event/ifla-2010-world-library-and-info
rmation-congress-76th-ifla-general-conference-and-assembly
[22] http://www.slideshare.net/event/ifla-2010-world-library-and-information-congress-76th-ifla-general-conference-and-assembly
GordonD: FRBR, as is, is deprecated in favor of a consolidated model
combining FRBR and FRSAD
... bibliographic description different than FRBR, more similar to
RDA
... specific rules about how elements should be displayed
... will use a DC application profile for this
... will feed back into DCMI and LLD
... hope to make a crosslinking between FRBR and ISBD
... much of the discussion taking place around linked data
ACTION: Gordon will prepare something on RDA, FRBR etc. for
discussion in Sept. agenda [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/29-lld-minu
tes.html#action06] [CONTINUES]
[23] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/29-lld-minutes.html#action06
emma: A lot of general interest on semweb at IFLA
... important session on libraries and semweb, quite long for IFLA
(4 hours?)
... on a Sunday morning!
... complementary to the technical work, special interest group
within IFLA on the general interest, training, etc.
next telecon
TomB: next conference, next week
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: marcia to post I2 comments to LLD list [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2010/08/19-lld-minutes.html#action02]
[24] http://www.w3.org/2010/08/19-lld-minutes.html#action02
[PENDING] ACTION: Everyone to create use cases on the "use case
note" page http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/UseCaseNotes .
Not more than 2 persons per case. Deadline august 25. [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/29-lld-minu
tes.html#action04]
[25] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/29-lld-minutes.html#action04
[PENDING] ACTION: Gordon will prepare something on RDA, FRBR etc.
for discussion in Sept. agenda [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/29-lld-minu
tes.html#action06]
[26] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/29-lld-minutes.html#action06
[DONE] ACTION: Marcia to send (informal) group's comment on I2
before the deadline for comments [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/29-lld-minu
tes.html#action05]
[27] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/29-lld-minutes.html#action05
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