Re: eiif and ontology proper

Guido thanks for the offer

we really need to move this in that direction, dolce or other, as soon as we
are comfortable that
the schema that we have in hand is what we consider a good enough working
draft
I guess

btw - would you have a visualization of the owl schema below, something that
looks more like a diagram? I wonder if I should try out the tabulator
extension of firefox to do it . or what browser can I point to the url below
to see a visualisation?
(lost in the rdf technology maze)


: http://www.loa-cnr.it/ontologies/DOLCE-Lite.owl




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> And yes, I've some (limited) time to dedicate to this activity on WORKPAD
> (www.workpad-proj.eu) funds, so basically if you can send me (or point me
> to) the UML sources (XMI) of the models you've developed so far I can try
> aligning the current conceptualization with this top level and see if it
> make sense. We could also have DOLCE authors on board if needed.
>
> Cordiali Saluti, Best Regards,
>
> Guido Vetere
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> eiif and ontology proper
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> Gary, and all
>
> can you you please repeat the question that you had in commenting the
> paragraph 'toward common ontology'?
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> When I first joined this group, the word *ontology* itself was avoided, to
> avoid entering in the realm of the ' too abstract and complicated' to be
> useful. Obviously members of this incubator have become more comfortable
> using the term since we started and, inevitably now we have to become
> semantically more precise.
>
> So, if we have to talk about ontology in our draft framework document, this
> would be a good time to start
> doing so properly.
>
> At the moment what we have is a schema, which in  itself it would be great
> to have, because ultimately, in  a functinal sense,  that's what we need to
> make the information flow a bit more coherent , functional and efficient.
>
> To make sure that our schema is compatible with the grand scheme of things,
> and universals and primitives, may require some additional refinement of our
> conceptual model. This will result in our schema to be more versatile robust
> and consistent and much more useful in time.
>
> Please share your thoughts with us, and let's ponder what choices we have
> to confront to move our work up to the metaphysical ladder (hehe, joking)
>
> Guido Vetere who has recently joined this group said that he is going to
> send some considerations and suggestions on how to model our schema to
> comply with DOLCE,
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> **http://www.loa-cnr.it/Papers/DOLCE2.1-FOL.pdf*<http://www.loa-cnr.it/Papers/DOLCE2.1-FOL.pdf>
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> which I very much look forward to seeing his contribution
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>
> Gary, which foundational ontology have you worked with before? What would
> be your suggestions to
> align our work with top level categories of sorts?
>
> I think it is a challenge for bottom up schemas (what we are doing now) to
> comply with foundational requirements,
> as well as it is a chellenge for foundational ontologies to be
> adopted/applied in bottom up schemas creation
>
> So  starting thinking in terms of ontology proper is an interesting and
> important exercise that we cannot longer postpone
> and hopefully we'll learn what we need to learn along the way
>
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> pdm
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