- From: <donc@internode.on.net>
- Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:26:57 +0930
- To: Gavin Treadgold <gt@kestrel.co.nz>, public-xg-eiif <public-xg-eiif@w3.org>
- Cc: Tom Worthington <Tom.Worthington@tomw.net.au>
Tom I think what is being suggested is to simply try and keep preliminary discussions within the context of the project. Any systems development firstly requires understanding and framing the domain in which the system will operate, and as far as I can tell there are no reasons offered to treat this project any differently. We are within the phase of framing a well known, studied and practiced domain. What I do support is the right of anyone to voice personal opinion on how this domain (EM) *should* operate, and believe me, after more than 20 years training and working as a Response Agency Commander at some of our most severe floods, storms, fires, earthquakes, search & rescue, civil evacuations, hazardous material incidents etc. etc. I have plenty of views on how EM *could* be improved!... nonetheless, as Gav suggests this is not the appropriate forum. Perhaps what we really need are computing professionals prepared to join this innitiative with an open mind - to learn about disasters and emergency management while EM folk learn of the ways by which ontological and other computing developments can assist them in their management of emergency priorities (to preserve life and property). I don't see any reason why we cannot learn from each other. PS - I also had no luck finding the references on your blog - but I'm usually not very successful when navigating the chaos of the blogosphere, so it's probably just me! Kind regards, Don Cameron > Hi Tom, > > Please don't leave the list. > > I think it is important to highlight the current scope of > this work in the incubator group is not to create > anything new (yet), but just to get an understanding of > what is out there in terms of standards for EM - an > environmental scan, if you will. Changing the world comes > later - hence the focus is on what exists now. Then we > can have the discussion on where we would like to be and > identify the gaps. > > Also, I wasn't able to see which article you were > referring to on your blog page. > > So, I do support Don trying to keep us on topic on this > list, otherwise we won't achieve our objective. One of > the reasons I'm trying to focus on getting content in > the wiki rather than discussing things on the list. Many > of us have already been bogged down in similar > discussions on H-ICT, and I would not want to see the same > start here. > > Humanitarian-ICT is probably still the better list to > discuss where you would like to see things heading for > the time being. > > Cheers Gavin > > PS and defining what a credentialed emergency manager > looks like is not easy. The only formal credential I'm > aware of is the Certified Emergency Manager (CEM), and > if that was the requirement, then this list would be a > very lonely place. There are many EM qualifications, but > these alone do not make the individual certified as > emergency managers nor does it give them any legal > standing (compared to say chartered engineers or similar > that have their credential defined in law). > > On 2008-03-03, at 1124, Tom Worthington wrote: > > > > > At 02:04 PM 27/02/2008, donc@internode.on.net wrote: > >> ... this particular initiative has a well defined > mission to create >> an ontology for the EM domain; and > that at least at this point in >> time the mission does > not include trying to reinvent the science of >> > emergency management (noting EM is nowadays qualified and > >> quantified by academic and other globally recognised > >> certifications ... > > > > Apologies, it appears I am not qualified to participate > > in the list as I am not a credentialed EM specialist. > > So I will un-subscribe and wish you well with the > work. > > > Perhaps W3C might consider a new activity to involve EM > > specialists with IT people such as myself, to use the > > web for EM communications to and between the public. > To get an idea of what I have in mind: > <http://www.tomw.net.au/blog/labels/emergency management > > .html >. > > > > > > > > Tom Worthington FACS HLM tom.worthington@tomw.net.au Ph: > > 0419 496150 Director, Tomw Communications Pty Ltd > > ABN: 17 088 714 309 PO Box 13, Belconnen ACT 2617 > > http://www.tomw.net.au/ Adjunct Senior > Lecturer, ANU > > > >
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