- From: C H <craighubleyca@yahoo.com>
- Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:46:41 -0800 (PST)
- To: Carl Reed <creed@opengeospatial.org>, public-xg-eiif@w3.org, public-xg-eiif-request@w3.org
Summary: EM has more exceptions than standards. Real EM systems are designed by people who are pragmatic and accordingly more concerned about interoperability and defensible situated design choices than about the authoritative body that mandated a particular choice. Focusing on the latter accordingly is a waste of time. And EM projects need a good capital asset model anyway. --- Carl Reed <creed@opengeospatial.org> wrote: > However, should this group use cycles to define a > new taxonomy for "standards"? I'd say not. I wasn't starting that argument, rather I was avoiding it. I propose something that already works to help instrument actual design practice, that does not establish some predefined hierarchy of de jure vs. accredited vs. whatever. I suggest these are only operational for purposes of assigning liability (more on that below). You can wait until the "old" taxonomy based on such vague non-operational distinction between accredited and de jure and etc. becomes a problem in real EM, and then use the categories that I suggest to sidestep it. I'm sure the xg-eii archives will still be there. But I proposed something much more basic than just a way to characterize standards or standards bodies. I think treating EM taxonomy/design decisions more like real legal and engineering decisions, and assuming that the detailed defense of designs invokes a wide variety of rationales, solves many more problems than just how to prioritize standards and standards bodies. A capital asset model is the core abstraction of any asset management system and far more so in emergencies when decisions must be made faster on less certain information and more assumptions. In emergencies, also, capital assets are often called on to substitute for each other, and knowing the risks of such changes is paramount. EM situations are not about liability allocation - they're about anticipating problems not routinely seen & solving them faster with less risk. Risk management systems require capital asset models. Having a single asset model in common for the standards process, the design process and whatever user artifacts come out of it seems advisable to me. I submit you can't possibly come up with a more clear or more operational capital asset model than the one I just proposed. I am quite sure it can be applied by persons who speak no English in the field during any kind of emergency: Bits are not bodies are not the agreements/bonds between. Standards are bits. Surely we agree on that. Why would we use a different model in the design phase than we would ask users to, in the field? And if not, then why in the standards debate? > Why not just use currently agreed to international > best practice as to what a standard is and how > standards bodies are already characterized. That practice isn't operational, that is, there is no information useful to an EM system designer nor user in the practices or categories used to debate de jure standards. But they can distract from the actual task at hand. Real designers have to make choices whether to implement or ignore "standards" or to what degree, and I think we would agree that EM in particular puts more pressure on those designers to be pragmatic. What is "best practice" to a bureaucrat is not to the user or designer. The practices you refer to help to define relationships between the standards bodies which is useful for routine work. But is that a practical position for EM? Does anyone really care whether a standards body is involved, or have need to characterize the standards bodies at all? Microsoft, for instance, sets a lot of de facto standards without a lot of help from those bodies. But even the use of the term "de facto standard" is problematic as it gets us into a pointless argument. I think we would agree that if interoperability with some existing Microsoft databases is required by an EM system, that is enough of a rationale to make such a choice defensible even in the total absence of any standard from any body. I think EM as a field has more exceptions than routines. Accordingly I prefer to ignore inter-agency issues and treat all design precedents as equal, so as to focus on the design process and actual defense of situated choices. In this sense an EM standards audit would be more like real legal arguments than like a rigid test suite. I suggest we don't need to characterize the "provenance" or credibility of any body or standard. Instead we just make note of the fact that some choice may be "defensible" because it's from the UN, or the IEEE, or the W3, or from the dominant vendor, or in use among particular players, or is open source, or whatever other reason. I see no way to characterize that defense with a hierarchy of standard bodies, and absolutely no reason to waste cycles on the difference between accredited, voluntary, de facto, vendor-defined and government-defined precedent. These are just different ways to allocate liability. Focusing on that too early may cause more failure than a focus on interoperability. It's far too easy just to say "we did it because the standard said to do it" without reference to the constraints of the actual problem... I see no reason to comment on this further however. I will happily revisit this in a couple of years and am quite sure I'll find many examples of failures caused by copying best practices of bureaucrats into EM work. Craig Hubley ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
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