- From: Chris Rogers <crogers@google.com>
- Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:33:58 -0700
- To: Joseph Berkovitz <joe@noteflight.com>
- Cc: public-xg-audio@w3.org
- Message-ID: <AANLkTikCFG5y5_GWxkm1ZSYWDQzzaqBec3txAVZDc=AH@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Joe, As we discussed a little bit in the tele-conference on Monday, my strategy has been to create an API which is as lightweight and concise as possible while still allowing for efficient native processing, easy graph construction, and low-latency playback. I can definitely see where the concepts of time-offset can be useful when building complex sequencing applications, but I believe that it is very straightforward to create JS sequencing wrapper classes to encapsulate the time-offset. The user of this class would not need to worry about passing in the time-offset to every method call, because the implementation of the class would take care of the details. Exactly what the API of this JS sequencing class looks like would depend on the details of the sequencing application (traditional sequencer, loop-based, region-based digital-audio workstation timeline, etc.), so I'm hesitant to build in anything more complex into the base API other than what is necessary. As we have more time to play with the API and build more sequencing applications, then I may be proven wrong. But I'd like to have a chance to see how different kinds of sequencing wrapper classes can solve different use cases. Chris On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Joseph Berkovitz <joe@noteflight.com>wrote: > On the subgraph-scheduling topic that we discussed on the call today, we > resolved that we'd work through some code examples to understand the issue > of subgraph scheduling better. I would like to try to take a first step on > this. If it doesn't feel valuable to go further with it, then I'll be fine > with moving on! > > The issue for me is that I would like to be able to define a "local time > origin" that is used to transform all time values used by noteOn(), > startAt(), automateAt()... basically, most functions that care about time. > Right now these are all scheduled relative to an "absolute time origin" > that is associated with the owning AudioContext, which I feel is a bit > inconvenient and requires extra parameters in every function in the call > tree that makes a node graph. > > This feels to me like it's a low-impact thing to implement -- but only if > people feel it's worth it. Let me make a concrete proposal that seems cheap > and easy, and try to show how it affects couple of simple use cases. My > proposal is adapted directly from the notion of transforms in the HTML5 > Canvas specification, and consists of three functions on AudioContext: > offset(), save(), restore(). AudioContext also acquires a new attribute: > "currentOffset". Here are their definitions: > > Object transform: an Object with a numeric "offset" property which affects > any time-based property of an object created from this AudioContext. Other > properties could be added, e.g "gain". The idea is that these are properties > that make sense to affect a wide array of objects. > void offset(float delta): adds delta to the value of transform.offset > save(): pushes a copy of "transform" onto an internal stack in the > AudioContext > restore(): pops an object from the same internal stack into "transform" > > Implementation concept: The parent AudioContext's currentOffset value is > automatically added to any time-valued parameters that are used in > scheduling functions on a node, such as noteOn(), etc. > > USE CASES > > The main difference is simple: with local time offsets saved in the > context, one can eliminate a whole bunch of "startTime" parameters that need > to be passed through everywhere. This may not seem like much of a saving, > but it feels cleaner to me, and if the spec ever starts to generalize the > notion of a saved/restored transform to include other variables besides time > (e.g. a "local gain" or "local pan"), it starts really paying off. You > don't want to go back and ask developers to add a whole bunch of new > parameters to existing functions and pass all these values through > everywhere. > > I'm going to give two use cases. The second one builds on the first. > > CASE 1. One wishes to play a sequence of audio buffers at some sequence of > evenly spaced times starting right now. > > Code needed today: > > function main() { > var context = new AudioContext(); > playSequence(context, [/* buffers */], 0.25, context.currentTime); > } > > function playSequence(context, bufferList, interval, startTime) { > for (var buffer in bufferList) { > playBuffer(context, buffer, startTime); > startTime += interval; > } > } > > function playBuffer(context, buffer, startTime) { > node = context.createBufferSource(); > node.buffer = buffer; > node.noteOn(startTime); > node.connect(context.destination); > } > > Code needed with time-offset transforms: > > function main() { > var context = new AudioContext(); > context.offset(context.currentTime); // from here on out, all time > offsets are relative to "now" > playSequence(context, [/* buffers */], 0.25); > } > > > function playSequence(context, bufferList, interval) { > for (var buffer in bufferList) { > playBuffer(context, buffer); > context.offset(interval); > } > } > > function playBuffer(context, buffer) { > node = context.createBufferSource(); > node.buffer = buffer; > node.noteOn(0); // starts relative to local time offset determined by > caller > node.connect(context.destination); > } > > CASE 2: builds on CASE 1 by playing a supersequence of sequences, with its > own time delay between the onset of lower-level sequences. > > Code needed today: > > function main() { > var context = new AudioContext(); > playSupersequence(context, [/* buffers */], 10, 5.0, context.currentTime); > } > > function playSupersequence(context, bufferList, repeatCount, interval, > startTime) { > for (var i = 0; i < repeatCount; i++) { > playSequence(context, [/* buffers */], 0.25, startTime + (i * > interval)); > } > } > > function playSequence(context, bufferList, interval, startTime) { > for (var buffer in bufferList) { > playBuffer(context, buffer, startTime); > startTime += interval; > } > } > > function playBuffer(context, buffer, startTime) { > node = context.createBufferSource(); > node.buffer = buffer; > node.noteOn(startTime); > node.connect(context.destination); > } > > Code needed with time-offset transforms: > > function main() { > var context = new AudioContext(); > context.offset(context.currentTime); > playSupersequence(context, [/* buffers */], 10, 5.0); > } > > function playSupersequence(context, bufferList, repeatCount, interval) { > for (var i = 0; i < repeatCount; i++) { > playSequence(context, [/* buffers */], 0.25); > context.offset(interval); > } > } > > // Note use of save() and restore() to allow this function to preserve > caller's time shift > function playSequence(context, bufferList, interval) { > save(); > for (var buffer in bufferList) { > playBuffer(context, buffer); > context.offset(interval); > } > restore(); > } > > function playBuffer(context, buffer) { > node = context.createBufferSource(); > node.buffer = buffer; > node.noteOn(0); // starts relative to local time offset determined by > caller > node.connect(context.destination); > } > > > ... . . . Joe > > Joe Berkovitz > President > Noteflight LLC > 160 Sidney St, Cambridge, MA 02139 > phone: +1 978 314 6271 > www.noteflight.com > > > > > > >
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