- From: Anil Saldhana <Anil.Saldhana@redhat.com>
- Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:17:23 -0600
- To: Ian Fette <ifette@google.com>
- CC: michael.mccormick@wellsfargo.com, public-wsc-wg@w3.org
Additionally, it would be nice if the banks would accept my https url (redirect to the http version if one does not exist). ;) Try: https://www.bankofamerica.com/giftcard (404) http://www.bankofamerica.com/giftcard Ian Fette wrote: > This seems bad to me. Specifically, trying HTTPS before HTTP is going to be > costly to some few number of sites. E.g. a ton of users just type in > google.com, yahoo.com, microsoft.com. For many of these use cases, SSL is > not appropriate. I understand the desire that for banks it goes to https, > but for the general web this is not a good thing IMHO. What would be better > is to say that if you're a banking site, you should immediately redirect > from http:// to https://. Trying to move the whole web to https:// is very > different, and is basically what you propose. > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:49 AM, <michael.mccormick@wellsfargo.com> wrote: > >> *http://no-www.org/* <http://no-www.org/> >> *http://yes-www.org/* <http://yes-www.org/> >> >> No doubt most of you are familiar with these web sites, and with the >> arguments for and against requiring host names in URLs. >> >> Most browsers seem to make it a moot point by accepting both forms of >> URL. If I type "example.com" into my browser it takes me to * >> http://www.example.com* <http://www.example.com>. The agent is letting me >> be lazy and skip typing the protocol (*http://*) or hostname (*www.*) >> portions of my destination address. >> >> The process of URL disambiguation, whereby the UA attempts to guess parts >> of the address the user has omitted, should be standardized for both >> security & experience reasons: >> >> [protocol://][host.][domain][.TLD][:port][/[path]][?query] >> >> - If protocol omitted, UA must try https before http. (Always prefer a >> TLS protected destination.) >> >> - If host omitted, and protocol is http(s), UA may try the host name >> "www" in the target domain if it has a DNS record, unless the agent is in >> SBM mode. >> >> - etc. >> >> *Michael McCormick, CISSP* >> Lead Security Architect, Information Security Technologies >> Wells Fargo Bank >> "THESE OPINIONS ARE STRICTLY MY OWN AND NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF WELLS >> FARGO" >> *This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If >> you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, >> you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message >> or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, >> please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this >> message. Thank you for your cooperation.* >> > -- Anil Saldhana Project/Technical Lead, JBoss Security & Identity Management JBoss, A division of Red Hat Inc. http://labs.jboss.com/portal/jbosssecurity/
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