- From: Thomas Roessler <tlr@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:15:08 +0200
- To: public-wsc-wg@w3.org
Minutes from our meeting on 2008-07-16 were approved and are available online here: http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html A text version is included below the .signature. -- Thomas Roessler, W3C <tlr@w3.org> [1]W3C WSC WG weekly 16 Jul 2008 [2]Agenda See also: [3]IRC log Attendees Present MaryEllen_Zurko, Tyler, jvkrey, joesteele, Bill_Doyle, Mike_McCormick, ifette, yngve, anil, PHB Regrets Thomas_R, Dan_S, Johnathan_N, Serge_E Chair Mez Scribe bill-d Contents * [4]Topics * [5]Summary of Action Items __________________________________________________________________ <Mez> [6]http://www.w3.org/2006/WSC/Group/cheatsheet#Scribing <jvkrey> [7]http://www.w3.org/2006/WSC/Group/cheatsheet#Scribing <Mez> ScribeNick: bill-d mez: agenda, scribe bill <Mez> [8]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/09-wsc-minutes.html mez: minutes approved <Mez> [9]http://www.w3.org/2006/WSC/track/actions/open mez: open actions, no issues known at this time ... agenda bashing ... one item on agenda entry exit planning ... mez not available next week going to SOUPS ... thomas chair next meeting <Mez> [10]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wsc-wg/2008Jul/0008.html mez: talk about recomendation entry / exit planning <Mez> [11]http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/CR-WCAG20-20080430/ mez: first link has exit criteria to make it to canadate recomendation <anil> gm Mez mez: first thing is to make it to last call - thomas as editor is working on, get through comments ... and work group does not get set back to earlier state ... has anyone been on a W3C WG that got to canadate recomendation ... does not appear so ... canadate recomendation is a newer process to ensure that implementation occured ... need to determine number of conforming examples, minimum # to meet conformance is 2 <Mez> [12]http://www.w3.org/2006/WSC/wiki/FeaturesAtRisk mez: went through opera and firefox examples, table has been put together to map features back to WSC examples ... firefox representation not available today, but has been expressed as not a problem to fill out, opera expressed that it should be ok also ... table for tracking plans conforming plans will have colors associated with various cell entry types <tlr> (wrong wg) mez: no further comments, WG has basic and advanced conformance levels ... should be in line but WG has not had discussion yet ... user agent implement or believe implement must and must not and should and should not. agree that two conforming examples for those levels. and flag featurs that are at rist to not comply ... the W3C process requires at least two conforming levels ... tyler asking question to determine if examples conform and if text of document can be modified to ensure conformance is met ... section on pet names is supported by firefox and add ons, opera does not have add ons and IE is difficult ... in oslo really cranked on add-ons, the whole user agent must conform. tyler: IE and petname add-on is not clear mez: way to claim conformance with add-on, is to add to base agent that is in conformance ... outreach to topic on web site best practices and may be good time to discuss with microsoft IE 8 study ifette: advances conformance with shoulds question if wg have two advanced mez: have two that conform to spec because logotypes are not implimented, but they don't exercise features in the spec. products conform but do not exercise features if features implemented ... back to exit criteria for basic and advanced conformance, does the WG have other requests in terms of conformance ifette: feels that it is a good level to shoot for - agreement mez: success criteria, support documentation question, looking to raise questions about requirements. question comes up about test procedures <Mez> ACTION: mez to get tlr to help us figure out what form a test procedure takes [recorded in [13]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action01] <trackbot> Created ACTION-495 - Get tlr to help us figure out what form a test procedure takes [on Mary Ellen Zurko - due 2008-07-23]. mez: test procedures touches on topic in terms of testing documentation and test procedures. Mez takes action item to look into test procedures and documetation needed ... since some of the recomendations require interpretation, test procedures are TBD ... exit critera includes mapping to conforming levels, test procedues and formal resoponse to questions generated ... not part of exit critera, calling out items at risk ... what if we don't have two examples - what if anything we want to say about must, shoulds and may ... some of the musts and shoulds are to help support IA, e.g. if you implement x (poor IA) please do y ... tasking to discuss any features that are at risk ... double check that phil did not have experience in current W3C exit tasking <Mez> [14]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/mwbp-implementation-report-template mez: link to table in use by another WG to work towards exit tasking ... table has pass, fail, partial and not applicable. partial compliance for doing some but not all in terms of conformance ... nice to have template when testing to help track ... two actions - opera and firefox to fill out table in terms of features at risk. opera vacation schedules impacting deliverable due date <Mez> ACTION: jvkrey to fill out the Opera column in our features at risk table [recorded in [15]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action02] <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - jvkrey <Mez> ACTION: krey to fill out the Opera column in our features at risk table [recorded in [16]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action03] <trackbot> Created ACTION-496 - Fill out the Opera column in our features at risk table [on Jan Vidar Krey - due 2008-07-23]. <Mez> ACTION: nightengale to fill out the FF column in our features at risk table [recorded in [17]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action04] <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - nightengale <Mez> ACTION: johnathan to fill out the FF column in our features at risk table [recorded in [18]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action05] <trackbot> Created ACTION-497 - Fill out the FF column in our features at risk table [on Johnathan Nightingale - due 2008-07-23]. <Mez> ACTION: Mez to write up plan for gettign to CR entry [recorded in [19]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action06] <trackbot> Created ACTION-498 - Write up plan for gettign to CR entry [on Mary Ellen Zurko - due 2008-07-23]. mez: feel that we came up with a plan that will be written up ... summer meetings could be pretty short until WG really starts to work through features at risk and get into testing ... wrap up - complete Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: johnathan to fill out the FF column in our features at risk table [recorded in [20]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action05] [NEW] ACTION: jvkrey to fill out the Opera column in our features at risk table [recorded in [21]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: krey to fill out the Opera column in our features at risk table [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action03] [NEW] ACTION: mez to get tlr to help us figure out what form a test procedure takes [recorded in [23]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action01] [NEW] ACTION: Mez to write up plan for gettign to CR entry [recorded in [24]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action06] [NEW] ACTION: nightengale to fill out the FF column in our features at risk table [recorded in [25]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action04] [End of minutes] __________________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [26]scribe.perl version 1.133 ([27]CVS log) $Date: 2008/08/18 19:14:03 $ References 1. http://www.w3.org/ 2. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wsc-wg/2008Jul/0012.html 3. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-irc 4. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#agenda 5. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#ActionSummary 6. http://www.w3.org/2006/WSC/Group/cheatsheet#Scribing 7. http://www.w3.org/2006/WSC/Group/cheatsheet#Scribing 8. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/09-wsc-minutes.html 9. http://www.w3.org/2006/WSC/track/actions/open 10. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wsc-wg/2008Jul/0008.html 11. http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/CR-WCAG20-20080430/ 12. http://www.w3.org/2006/WSC/wiki/FeaturesAtRisk 13. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action01 14. http://www.w3.org/2006/06/mwbp-implementation-report-template 15. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action02 16. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action03 17. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action04 18. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action05 19. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action06 20. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action05 21. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action02 22. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action03 23. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action01 24. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action06 25. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action04 26. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm 27. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ -- Thomas Roessler, W3C <tlr@w3.org>
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