- From: Thomas Roessler <tlr@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:15:08 +0200
- To: public-wsc-wg@w3.org
Minutes from our meeting on 2008-07-16 were approved and are
available online here:
http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html
A text version is included below the .signature.
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Thomas Roessler, W3C <tlr@w3.org>
[1]W3C
WSC WG weekly
16 Jul 2008
[2]Agenda
See also: [3]IRC log
Attendees
Present
MaryEllen_Zurko, Tyler, jvkrey, joesteele, Bill_Doyle,
Mike_McCormick, ifette, yngve, anil, PHB
Regrets
Thomas_R, Dan_S, Johnathan_N, Serge_E
Chair
Mez
Scribe
bill-d
Contents
* [4]Topics
* [5]Summary of Action Items
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<Mez> [6]http://www.w3.org/2006/WSC/Group/cheatsheet#Scribing
<jvkrey> [7]http://www.w3.org/2006/WSC/Group/cheatsheet#Scribing
<Mez> ScribeNick: bill-d
mez: agenda, scribe bill
<Mez> [8]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/09-wsc-minutes.html
mez: minutes approved
<Mez> [9]http://www.w3.org/2006/WSC/track/actions/open
mez: open actions, no issues known at this time
... agenda bashing
... one item on agenda entry exit planning
... mez not available next week going to SOUPS
... thomas chair next meeting
<Mez>
[10]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wsc-wg/2008Jul/0008.html
mez: talk about recomendation entry / exit planning
<Mez> [11]http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/CR-WCAG20-20080430/
mez: first link has exit criteria to make it to canadate recomendation
<anil> gm Mez
mez: first thing is to make it to last call - thomas as editor is
working on, get through comments
... and work group does not get set back to earlier state
... has anyone been on a W3C WG that got to canadate recomendation
... does not appear so
... canadate recomendation is a newer process to ensure that
implementation occured
... need to determine number of conforming examples, minimum # to meet
conformance is 2
<Mez> [12]http://www.w3.org/2006/WSC/wiki/FeaturesAtRisk
mez: went through opera and firefox examples, table has been put
together to map features back to WSC examples
... firefox representation not available today, but has been expressed
as not a problem to fill out, opera expressed that it should be ok also
... table for tracking plans conforming plans will have colors
associated with various cell entry types
<tlr> (wrong wg)
mez: no further comments, WG has basic and advanced conformance levels
... should be in line but WG has not had discussion yet
... user agent implement or believe implement must and must not and
should and should not. agree that two conforming examples for those
levels. and flag featurs that are at rist to not comply
... the W3C process requires at least two conforming levels
... tyler asking question to determine if examples conform and if text
of document can be modified to ensure conformance is met
... section on pet names is supported by firefox and add ons, opera
does not have add ons and IE is difficult
... in oslo really cranked on add-ons, the whole user agent must
conform.
tyler: IE and petname add-on is not clear
mez: way to claim conformance with add-on, is to add to base agent that
is in conformance
... outreach to topic on web site best practices and may be good time
to discuss with microsoft IE 8 study
ifette: advances conformance with shoulds question if wg have two
advanced
mez: have two that conform to spec because logotypes are not
implimented, but they don't exercise features in the spec. products
conform but do not exercise features if features implemented
... back to exit criteria for basic and advanced conformance, does the
WG have other requests in terms of conformance
ifette: feels that it is a good level to shoot for - agreement
mez: success criteria, support documentation question, looking to raise
questions about requirements. question comes up about test procedures
<Mez> ACTION: mez to get tlr to help us figure out what form a test
procedure takes [recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-495 - Get tlr to help us figure out what form
a test procedure takes [on Mary Ellen Zurko - due 2008-07-23].
mez: test procedures touches on topic in terms of testing documentation
and test procedures. Mez takes action item to look into test procedures
and documetation needed
... since some of the recomendations require interpretation, test
procedures are TBD
... exit critera includes mapping to conforming levels, test procedues
and formal resoponse to questions generated
... not part of exit critera, calling out items at risk
... what if we don't have two examples - what if anything we want to
say about must, shoulds and may
... some of the musts and shoulds are to help support IA, e.g. if you
implement x (poor IA) please do y
... tasking to discuss any features that are at risk
... double check that phil did not have experience in current W3C exit
tasking
<Mez> [14]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/mwbp-implementation-report-template
mez: link to table in use by another WG to work towards exit tasking
... table has pass, fail, partial and not applicable. partial
compliance for doing some but not all in terms of conformance
... nice to have template when testing to help track
... two actions - opera and firefox to fill out table in terms of
features at risk. opera vacation schedules impacting deliverable due
date
<Mez> ACTION: jvkrey to fill out the Opera column in our features at
risk table [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - jvkrey
<Mez> ACTION: krey to fill out the Opera column in our features at risk
table [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-496 - Fill out the Opera column in our
features at risk table [on Jan Vidar Krey - due 2008-07-23].
<Mez> ACTION: nightengale to fill out the FF column in our features at
risk table [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - nightengale
<Mez> ACTION: johnathan to fill out the FF column in our features at
risk table [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-497 - Fill out the FF column in our features
at risk table [on Johnathan Nightingale - due 2008-07-23].
<Mez> ACTION: Mez to write up plan for gettign to CR entry [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-498 - Write up plan for gettign to CR entry
[on Mary Ellen Zurko - due 2008-07-23].
mez: feel that we came up with a plan that will be written up
... summer meetings could be pretty short until WG really starts to
work through features at risk and get into testing
... wrap up - complete
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: johnathan to fill out the FF column in our features at
risk table [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: jvkrey to fill out the Opera column in our features at
risk table [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: krey to fill out the Opera column in our features at risk
table [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: mez to get tlr to help us figure out what form a test
procedure takes [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Mez to write up plan for gettign to CR entry [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: nightengale to fill out the FF column in our features at
risk table [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action04]
[End of minutes]
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References
1. http://www.w3.org/
2. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wsc-wg/2008Jul/0012.html
3. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-irc
4. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#agenda
5. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#ActionSummary
6. http://www.w3.org/2006/WSC/Group/cheatsheet#Scribing
7. http://www.w3.org/2006/WSC/Group/cheatsheet#Scribing
8. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/09-wsc-minutes.html
9. http://www.w3.org/2006/WSC/track/actions/open
10. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wsc-wg/2008Jul/0008.html
11. http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/CR-WCAG20-20080430/
12. http://www.w3.org/2006/WSC/wiki/FeaturesAtRisk
13. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action01
14. http://www.w3.org/2006/06/mwbp-implementation-report-template
15. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action02
16. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action03
17. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action04
18. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action05
19. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action06
20. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action05
21. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action02
22. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action03
23. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action01
24. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action06
25. http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-wsc-minutes.html#action04
26. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
27. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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Thomas Roessler, W3C <tlr@w3.org>
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