- From: Brad Porter <brad@tellme.com>
- Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:45:27 -0800
- To: "Yngve N. Pettersen (Developer Opera Software ASA)" <yngve@opera.com>
- Cc: Mary Ellen Zurko <Mary_Ellen_Zurko@notesdev.ibm.com>, public-wsc-wg@w3.org
- Message-ID: <45DB6BF7.6080502@tellme.com>
Yngve, in your example, you are referring to the concrete notion of
chrome as window dressing, not the semantic notion of chrome as the UI
controlled by the browser. I think we should either kill the word
chrome altogether from our vocabulary, or alternatively, use chrome to
just mean window dressing concrete form.
I collapsing Mez's extractions down to three definitions:
window chrome -- visual elements used by Desktop browsers or the OS
window manager to surround the web page
user-agent user interface elements -- any user interface
presentation controlled explicitly by the browser and not under
direct web page control
markup user interface elements -- the user interface elements
specified by the web page. Based on web page content, displayed in
some fashion to the user, through the web user agent.
In Yngve's example, widgets do not have "window chrome" as the browser
and the OS do not surround the web page content with any visual elements.
--Brad
Yngve N. Pettersen (Developer Opera Software ASA) wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:46:28 +0100, Mary Ellen Zurko
> <Mary_Ellen_Zurko@notesdev.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>> "Chrome" : the user interface elements provided by the web user agent.
>> Equivalent to "semantic chrome". Chrome can come from whatever software
>> gives the user feedback on their web experience; browser, rich
>> client, OS,
>> plugins, etc. Dialogs would go here, as an example.
>> "Content" : data elements provided by the web page.
>>
>> Parts of chrome are populated with content, but not all of the chrome is
>> populated with content.
>
> There may be one exception: Widgets. AFAIK Wigdets, at least as
> implemented in Opera does not provide any Opera generated "chrome",
> the widget itself provide all the "chrome".
>
>
> --Sincerely,
> Yngve N. Pettersen
>
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