- From: Doug Davis <dug@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:55:41 -0400
- To: antoine.mensch@odonata.fr
- Cc: public-ws-resource-access@w3.org
- Message-ID: <OF239B772F.6E8BA255-ON8525764F.00626A58-8525764F.00627C33@us.ibm.com>
Antoine, does http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7728 point #1 cover at least part of your concern? thanks -Doug ______________________________________________________ STSM | Standards Architect | IBM Software Group (919) 254-6905 | IBM 444-6905 | dug@us.ibm.com The more I'm around some people, the more I like my dog. Antoine Mensch <antoine.mensch@odonata.fr> Sent by: public-ws-resource-access-request@w3.org 10/13/2009 04:59 PM Please respond to antoine.mensch@odonata.fr To public-ws-resource-access@w3.org cc Subject Comments on the preview of the WS-MetadataExchange Working Draft Dear colleagues, Please find below some comments on the preview of the WS-MetadataExchange Working Draft (http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-ws-metadata-exchange-20090924). I. Section 7 This section provides a way to attach metadata to an EPR. However, the spec does not clearly state whether this feature is only intended for carrying general metadata about the service exposed through the endpoint (as the examples seem to indicate), or whether it could also be used for carrying endpoint-specific metadata, such as the endpoint effective policy (as defined in WS-PolicyAttachment). Ideally, there should be an easy way to directly attach an endpoint effective policy to the EPR, in order to bypass the usual complex algorithm that the client must implement to compute the endpoint effective policy, which is not practical for some embedded clients: 1) Download the WSDL 2) Retrieve the service port corresponding to the EPR (matching the address, and hoping that the WSDL is complete, i.e. is dynamically generated by the service to contain an up-to-date address, which is often numerical in cases of devices). 3) Build the endpoint effective policy by merging info extracted from the WSDL and possibly an external policy document. The closest way I can see in the current version of the spec would be to use an external policy attachment as metadata section, using the EPR as policy scope. So for instance, to express that an EPR supports the DPWS requirements for hosted services (as a basic example of policy assertion), one could have: <wsa:EndpointReference xmlns:wsa='http://www.w3.org/2005/08/addressing'> <wsa:Address>http://192.168.0.34/myHostedService</wsa:Address> <wsa:Metadata> <mex:Metadata xmlns:mex='http://www.w3.org/2009/09/ws-mex'> <mex:MetadataSection xmlns:wsp='http://www.w3.org/ns/ws-policy'> Dialect='http://www.w3.org/TR/ws-policy-attach'> <wsp:PolicyAttachment> <wsp:AppliesTo> <wsa:EndpointReference> <wsa:Address>http://192.168.0.34/myHostedService</wsa:Address> </wsa:EndpointReference> </wsp:AppliesTo> <wsp:Policy> <dpws:Profile xmlns:dpws='http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-dd/ns/dpws/2009/01'/> </wsp:Policy> </wsp:PolicyAttachment> </mex:MetadataSection> </mex:Metadata> </wsa:Metadata> </wsa:EndpointReference> Is the above a valid use of the EPR embedded metadata feature? If so, although much simpler than having to parse a full WSDL, it remains a relatively heavy solution for embedded clients. A simpler solution could be to have, by specifying that the EPR defines a default policy scope, and thus avoiding the external policy attachment construct: <wsa:EndpointReference xmlns:wsa='http://www.w3.org/2005/08/addressing'> <wsa:Address>http://192.168.0.34/myHostedService</wsa:Address> <wsa:Metadata> <mex:Metadata xmlns:mex='http://www.w3.org/2009/09/ws-mex'> <mex:MetadataSection xmlns:wsp='http://www.w3.org/ns/ws-policy'> Dialect='http://www.w3.org/TR/ws-policy'> <wsp:Policy> <dpws:Profile xmlns:dpws='http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-dd/ns/dpws/2009/01'/> </wsp:Policy> </mex:MetadataSection> </mex:Metadata> </wsa:Metadata> </wsa:EndpointReference> or even better (allowing any predefined WS-Mex dialect to appear in the WS-Addressing metadata, as in a Get response) <wsa:EndpointReference xmlns:wsa='http://www.w3.org/2005/08/addressing'> <wsa:Address>http://192.168.0.34/myHostedService</wsa:Address> <wsa:Metadata> <wsp:Policy> <dpws:Profile xmlns:dpws='http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-dd/ns/dpws/2009/01'/> </wsp:Policy> </wsa:Metadata> </wsa:EndpointReference> II. Editorial comments: It seems that the namespace used in schema import elements in several examples should be http://services.example.org/stockquote/schemas instead of http://services.example.org/stockquote Best regards, Antoine Mensch
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