- From: Johannes Echterhoff <johannes.echterhoff@igsi.eu>
- Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:14:41 +0200
- To: <public-ws-resource-access@w3.org>
Hi. I am new to this list, therefore I am going to quickly introduce myself: my name is Johannes Echterhoff and I am involved in standardization activities of the Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC - http://www.opengeospatial.org). Recently, there was quite a discussion in an OGC working group on how to create standards that support both REST(ful) and WS-* (based upon standards from W3C and OASIS) style web services. A lot of these discussions revolve around the resources we need to model and how to do that in both architectural styles. For the WS-* style, this brought me to the WS-Resource specifications from OASIS. In addition, we want to integrate publish/subscribe functionality in some of our web services. This brought me to WS-Notification. I favoured the OASIS specifications because they reached the final specification status, while for example WS-Eventing at the time was "only" a W3C submission. Now that I learnt of the activities of your working group, I have some questions that I hope you can answer: How are the activities of this W3C working group, especially the resulting documents / standards related to the work done by OASIS? For example, WS-Eventing appears to provide a subset of the functionality given by WS-Notification. Some time ago I read about a common approach to eventing in web service environments, titled WS-EventNotification. I thought this was a great idea, having a basic set of functionality which would support basic pub/sub and optional extensions which provided higher functionality, like topic based subscriptions or brokering. Unfortunately, according to http://travisspencer.com/blog/2008/11/effort-to-converge-ws-eventing.html the efforts to harmonize WS-Eventing and WS-Notification and create a single, common standard have ceased. Please comment if this is true and if so why the common approach has been abandoned. There seems to be functional overlap of WS-(Resource)Transfer with the WS-ResourceProperties specification from OASIS. The current working drafts from your group look like they are more compatible with the http interface (get, put, delete etc.), so the functionality implemented by the proposed operations look like they could be more easily ported to a REST(ful) style web service - is this the intention? [As for WS-MetadataExchange and WS-Enumeration I do not know of an OASIS equivalent (have heard about WS-MetadataExchange before and found it quite useful), but if there is one, please let me know.] For my work at the OGC, I need guidance which approach (that from W3C or OASIS) to use and promote. It would help a lot if there was a public statement to what extent these apparently competing standards differ or share the same functionality. If possible, guidance why one should use one approach over the other would be highly appreciated - something like best practices for various use cases. Right now the only arguments pro/contra an approach for me are its current specification status (submission/recommendation/draft/etc.), the functionality required/provided and the available toolbase. The thing is that for my OGC related standardization work I need to decide which WS-* standards to use and which not to use. I would not like to end up with a W3C and an OASIS architectural style for the implementation specification of my geospatial web service, in addition to the REST(ful) style. You see that I am a bit confused with the (apparently emerging) functional overlap of W3C and OASIS specifications. I hope you can help to clarify the current situation (on managing resources and eventing/notification in web services). Best regards, Johannes Echterhoff
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