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Re: Proposed change to Framework 3.1

From: Anthony Nadalin <drsecure@us.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:21:24 -0500
To: Frederick Hirsch <frederick.hirsch@nokia.com>
Cc: Frederick Hirsch <frederick.hirsch@nokia.com>, public-ws-policy@w3.org, public-ws-policy-request@w3.org
Message-ID: <OFDAE42F3C.49AD776B-ON862571D1.006FBF26-862571D1.006FD2EA@us.ibm.com>

If its wrapped in an wsp:policy then its a assertion if not its a parameter

Anthony Nadalin | Work 512.838.0085 | Cell 512.289.4122


                                                                           
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which is the assertion and which the parameter?

<foo:Hello>
<bar:GoodDay>

regards, Frederick

Frederick Hirsch
Nokia


On Aug 21, 2006, at 3:42 PM, ext Anthony Nadalin wrote:

> You don't need to tell them apart as they are easy to distinguish
> from one another, They are used for different purposes, the main
> reason of nested policy is to be able to have intersection, suggest
> that you give the intersection as the concrete example.
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> This is what this sentence says, that you need to tell parameters and
> assertions apart, exactly for that reason, and that how it is done is
> by putting nested assertions within wsp elements as described in the
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> regards, Frederick
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> On Aug 21, 2006, at 3:11 PM, ext Anthony Nadalin wrote:
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> > >Use of a policy framework element to contain a nested assertion
> > enables nested assertions to be distinguished from assertion
> > parameters and processed appropriately
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> > The major difference between using assertion parameter and a nested
> > assertion is the intersection ability, the above sentence does not
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> > I propose the following change to 3.1, "Policy Assertion" in the
> > latest editor's draft of the policy framework [1]. The change is
> > shown as a red-line to 3.1, in the attached PDF.
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> > This is proposed as a partial resolution to bug report 3549 [2] and
> > as a replacement to previous proposals regarding text to clarify the
> > framework with regards to this issue.
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> > I propose the issue with regards to the normalization procedure in
> > 4.2 (as also noted in the bug report) should be made a separate
> > issue. This normalization procedure does not appear to explicitly
> > pass through parameters.
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> > regards, Frederick
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> > Frederick Hirsch
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> > [1] <http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/ws-policy-
> > framework.html?content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8>
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> > [2] <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3549>
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> > [attachment "policy-framework-3549-proposal.pdf" deleted by Anthony
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