- From: Assaf Arkin <arkin@intalio.com>
- Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 12:03:33 -0700
- To: "Burdett, David" <david.burdett@commerceone.com>
- CC: Ricky Ho <riho@cisco.com>, "Yaron Y. Goland" <ygoland@bea.com>, public-ws-chor@w3.org
Let's assume this refinement of the use case given by Ricky. The buyer sends quote requests to three different suppliers, obtains the results, and decides which one supplier to obtain the product from. The decision criteria is called decision X. The buyer has absolutely no intention whatsoever to disclosed decision X to the world. The buyer is perfecly fine saying 'my decision X', but not providing any more meaningful information. The supplier decides whether or not to accept the order. That decision is called decision Y. Let's assume a more trivial example whereby some suppliers do not support international orders for whatever reason. The buyer goes into the process of identifying a buyer, the cheapest one of the bunch for that particular product, constructing a PO and sending it to the buyer. Due to technical issues the response comes back 4 hours later. The response says "RTFM - international orders not supported here". The buyer understands why the order was rejected (a common error code), but has just wasted 4 hours waiting for that response. Had the buyer read the FM upfront the buyer would not even have selected that particular supplier. The buyer then goes to the second supplier, unfortunately with the same effect (it seems that all good deals are not available internationally). Now let's change it slightly. Let's assume that the supplier can, along with all other information indicating it's willingness to participate in the choreography, indicate that one of the rules for decision Y is that 'no international orders are accepted'. Let's say there's a common way to express it, which may or may not be an XPath expression, and a place to say it. Now the buyer has the option to actually RTFM by not selecting that supplier up front. So instead the buyer only selects the suppliers that can actually fulfill the purchase order, selects the best one, and starts talking to that supplier directly. So there is some benefit to knowing which decision is being made, so that in some cases - in this scenario Y but not X, for some suppliers but not all, for some buyers but not all - it is possible to determine the outcome before sending the message saving money by not starting any transaction that is doomed to fail. Is there a benefit in that capability? arkin Burdett, David wrote: > Following on from this, in practice you would need to have error codes > in the return message that included one for "badlist" country. To > realize interoperability, the error codes that could be present in the > message data should be published in advance. In this case the sender > should already know that orders from a badlist country would not be > accepted. > > I don't see what this has to do with choreography ... or am I missing > something. > > David
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