- From: David Hull <dmh@tibco.com>
- Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:08:28 -0700
- Cc: public-ws-addressing@w3.org
- Message-id: <42921C1C.5090004@tibco.com>
Francisco Curbera wrote: >{snip] > > >Unlike replies, faults are almost never "expected"; a fault is always the >consequence of an unexpected error, an that is why it is no natural to >require clients to decide when they "expect" a fault - they would just not >send a fault-generating message to begin with. So it makes sense both to >treat them as separate and to maintain the asymmetry between faultTo and >replyTo, with the current defaulting of the destination of faults to the >replyTo address when faultTo is absent. > > I think the implication runs the other way. In some situations -- notably fire-and-forget non-robust one-way -- a sender can definitely say it does /not/ expect a fault reply. In all other cases, the sender should be prepared to listen to a fault that comes back. By "fault" here, I mean "application-level fault", where the receiver got the message and found it to be well formed, but had a problem with its content. In /all/ cases, even fire-and-forget, you can still have transport-level errors, which are distinct from application-level faults. For example, a pure one-way operation will never produce an application-level fault, but a sender trying to send such a message may supply an invalid address, or try to send during a network failure, or whatever. In effect, a receiver that advertises that it may produce a fault is saying "Even if the message you send is properly addressed to me and arrives safely, I reserve the right to complain about it." As far as I'm concerned, a fault in this sense is just another kind of application-level message. The main wrinkle that it adds is that replies and faults may be addressed separately, which requires a bit of care when one kind (it doesn't matter which) is directed to the anonymous address and the other (it doesn't matter which) is directed elsewhere.
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