[wot-ig/wg] minutes - 10 February 2021

available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2021/02/10-wot-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Dave!

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

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                               WoT-IG/WG

10 February 2021

   [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#10_February_2021
      [3] https://www.w3.org/2021/02/10-wot-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Christine_Perey, Daniel_Peintner, Dave_Raggett,
          David_Ezell, Ege_Korkan, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura,
          Michael_McCool, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Sebastian_Kaebisch,
          Takahisa_Suzuki, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Zoltan_Kis

   Regrets
          -

   Chair
          McCool

   Scribe
          dsr_

Contents

    1. [4]Invited Experts
    2. [5]Approval of minutes
    3. [6]WoT Japanese CG
    4. [7]Renaming the "master" branches to "main"
    5. [8]Goals and Objectives
    6. [9]Plans for joint calls
    7. [10]plugfest and Virtual F2F planning
    8. [11]F2F planning
    9. [12]TF reports

Meeting minutes

  Invited Experts

   Philip Blum has been approved Michael Koster's application is
   still pending

  Approval of minutes

   <kaz> [13]Feb-3

     [13] https://www.w3.org/2021/02/03-wot-minutes.html

   Michael reviews the minutes of last week's call

   Any objections to publishing the minutes [no]

   Approved.

  WoT Japanese CG

   Kaz talks about the new Japanese WoT Japanese CG. they're
   planning to hold an online event later February. Mizushima-san
   could give some more details.

   Mizushima-san gives more details

   McCool asks if we can update our new Web pages to link to the
   new CG

   <dape> [14]CG area within the new WoT Welcom page

     [14] https://www.w3.org/WoT/CG/

   Daniel provides some details

   McCool: we should link to the WoT JP CG from our marketing
   pages

   <Mizushima> [15]wot-jp cg homepage

     [15] https://www.w3.org/community/wot-jp/

  Renaming the "master" branches to "main"

   McCool: we were asked to rename our Master path on GitHub to
   Main. I've tested this in my own fork.

   People need to update their local copies on their own
   computers.

   McCool: I have a few more things to do and will then draft some
   detailed instructions. Any PR's against the Master path need to
   be applied before we do the updates

   Michael shows us some of the details

   Lagally: what's the purpose, what will happen to the original?

   McCool: I think but haven't tested that pending PR's will be
   automatically rolled over

   Github has been a little unstable recently ...

   So taking things cautiously

  Goals and Objectives

   Our CEO, Jeff Jaffe is asking for the objectives we are setting
   ourselves for this year. This can include our publication
   roadmap, any workshops we plan to do, measurable progress with
   our liaisons, and best of all metrics for adoption by industry
   and targets for member recruitment.

   Any idea of how we can answer Jeff?

   Some of this is around marketing, and industry outreach

   We want to set some achievable objectives according to what we
   want

   McCool: what do we do in respect to contacting industry
   prospects

   Sebastian: we're starting a joint activity with OPC and this
   should be one of the objectives as an important step for a WoT
   binding to OPC

   McCool: how should we organise this? I could create a markdown
   file in GitHub?

   kaz: please note that the W3C Objective is related to the
   Industry Team, and the Industry Champions including Dave for
   WoT and myself for Smart Cities are in charge of generating the
   Objectives documents.

   what I as the WoT Team Contact would like to ask the group to
   think about is rather clarifying the existing targets and
   expectations. for example, what I suggested during the
   marketing call and the use cases call yesterday. extending the
   timetable for spec generation might be a good starting point.

   McCool: we need a clear place for where we keep those
   objectives

   He creates an issue to kick this off
   … along with a markdown file "goals.md"

   The issue is #956 "Capture objectives and goals"

   <McCool> [16]https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/956

     [16] https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/956

   Lagally: what is the lowest entry level for compliance with WoT

   I believe that we need to have the entry barrier very low

   We also need to encourage convergence by the Mozilla web things

   McCool: a tutorial would list what components you need to build
   a WoT compliant solution

   McCool: we need to raise our visibility and encourage adoption

   We're working on our marketing plan with a March 1st milestone

   Ege talks about microcontrollers

   McCool: for a product the cheapest device, along with a hub
   device ...

   Lagally: we should talk about this in the architecture call

   Sebastian: the Mozilla web thing community meet regularly, and
   have plans for W3C WoT compliance for 2.0 version

   kaz: is Ben Francis still leading the Web Things community?

   McCool: I think so

   <kaz> kaz: in that case, we can chat with Ben directly too :)

  Plans for joint calls

   Michael reviews the pending plans for joint calls with external
   groups, WebThings (Mozilla), Microsoft DTDL, IEC CDD, ...

  plugfest and Virtual F2F planning

   David: I wanted to ask about thingweb.io, which talks about
   Raspberry Pi a lot

   McCool: we want to provide instructions for running node-wot
   … it would be my preference for a reference platform

   <Zakim> dezell, you wanted to ask about thingweb.io

   <Ege> [17]https://github.com/tum-esi/wot-sys/tree/master/
   Devices/ESP-lightsensor esp based lightsensor here

     [17] https://github.com/tum-esi/wot-sys/tree/master/Devices/ESP-lightsensor

   Michael Koster talks about some development hardware options

   NodeMCU is based on ESP8266 chip plus WiFi

   We should talk about a tutorial for a minimally conformant
   systems

   <Ege> [18]https://github.com/tum-esi/wot-sys/tree/master/
   Devices/ESP32-ledSwitch

     [18] https://github.com/tum-esi/wot-sys/tree/master/Devices/ESP32-ledSwitch

   Further discussion in the plugfest call ...

   Sebastian has implemented support in the Lua stack

   Michael wonders if node-wot can be made to run on small devices

   Sebastian: TUM have some baseline implementations

   <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to suggest we talk about the detail on
   implementations during the plugfest call again :)

   <Ege> [19]https://jerryscript.net/ this would also run an esp32

     [19] https://jerryscript.net/

  F2F planning

   McCool: We've arranged webex for the face to face, but need to
   prepare the agenda

   <mjk> We should eventually have a common reference stack for
   embedded platforms (C/C++)

   Kaz: one hour for a joint discussion with IEC

   McCool: let's try to arrange the calls with other external
   groups on the same day

   Each task force needs to add their own agenda topics

   McCool asks Michael Koster about joint call on oneDM and ASDF,
   should this be done in the IETF?

   Koster: I don't think there will be time during the IETF
   meeting

   <McCool> [20]https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/charters/
   wot-ocpua-2021-charter-draft.md

     [20] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/charters/wot-ocpua-2021-charter-draft.md

   Sebastian is proposing a cooperation document and sub group for
   WoT/OPC

   McCool: I think this is essentially about protocol binding, but
   these are not part of our charter in respect to normative specs

   Kaz: informative would be fine for now given the Charter says
   Protocol Binding is informative. also we can have further
   discussion during the TD call later today.

   <kaz> [21]Charter

     [21] https://www.w3.org/2020/01/wot-wg-charter.html

   McCool: I have a draft proposal for gelocation and am working
   with Christne Perey on this

  TF reports

   Sebastian provides a quick status report from Marketing TF,
   good progress on web pages

   <dape> see [22]https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/ and
   [23]https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues

     [22] https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/
     [23] https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues

   Launch date for new pages is March 1st

   <dape> [24]wot-marketing issue 118

     [24] https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/118

   Please review by end of Feb

   McCool: we should think about a clean experience for developers
   new to WoT

   <Zakim> aks, you wanted to discuss general marketing feedback
   w.r.t. "is everyone" ok with the current approach

   Lagally: when will we do a resolution on the new pages?

   McCool: not today, but definitely to mark that we're
   comfortable with the launch

   Feel free to propose PR's if you have some ideas for
   improvements
   … end of meeting

   <kaz> [main call adjourned; PF call starts in 5 mins]


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