- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2021 18:13:35 +0900
- To: public-wot-ig@w3.org, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at: https://www.w3.org/2021/01/20-wot-minutes.html also as text below. Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Michael McCool! Kazuyuki --- [1]W3C [1] https://www.w3.org/ WoT-IG/WG 20 January 2021 [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log. [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#20_January_2021 [3] https://www.w3.org/2021/01/20-wot-irc Attendees Present Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima Regrets - Chair Sebastian Scribe kaz, McCool Contents 1. [4]invited experts 2. [5]minutes review 3. [6]SDW/AR use cases/ 4. [7]APA meeting 5. [8]planning additional joint meeting 6. [9]vF2F planning 7. [10]Liaisons 8. [11]Task Force Reports 9. [12]Summary of action items Meeting minutes invited experts Sebastian: Christine Perey, SDWIG, as invited expert in WoT; approved by chairs ... expect her to join the use case calls ... we have some other candidates that are in process minutes review [13]Jan-13 [13] https://www.w3.org/2021/01/13-wot-minutes.html Sebastian: SDW, APA, Liaisons, TF reports... (approved) SDW/AR use cases/ [14]meeting agenda [14] https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/955 <McCool> Jan 19 was joint call with SDW/AR McCool: more introductory discussions there … presentation from the Open AR Cloud guys … also pending use cases from Rob Smith … next steps includes follow-up discussions during the use cases calls … possible proposals on spatial data for discovery … also tracking references [15]comments on next steps [15] https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/955#issuecomment-762978602 Lagally: expecting to have geolocation experts from them? McCool: yes … note that Christine Perey from their side will make contributions as an IE McCool: before moving forward to actual spec features, we'll clearly define our requirements … e.g., for geospatial query Lagally: tx for your clarification McCool: I gave some tutorial on how to use GitHub PRs to Christine McCool: also expect SD experts, including Christine Perey, to contribute to use cases and requirements APA meeting <kaz> [16]meeting agenda [16] https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/953 see github issue for agenda; make issues and label them with "Accessibility" Lagally: we do have an accessibility section in use cases... would be useful to review planning additional joint meeting Sebastian: Microsoft DTDL; Michael Lagally trying to organize … unfortunately use case call is inconvenient, have proposed having him join Architecture call vF2F planning Sebastian: dates and times have been proposed … doodles are in agenda … plugfest proposed for March 1-5 McCool: I have marked existing WoT meetings as yellow conflicts during plugfest week … although we might cancel them, to discuss Daniel: was there an email for the doodles? Kaz: not yet, I will do Action: kaz to send an announcement on the doodle Sebastian: proposal for actual vF2F, propose some times from March 15 - 26. McCool: I propose that we try to schedule a total of 15h over those two weeks … let's use the doodle to figure out the best slots to use Sebastian: note also that these two weeks are when the daylight savings time is changing, so be careful when checking times McCool: once we decide on times I can send out calendar invites which will hopefully show the times correctly in everyone's local timezone Liaisons McCool: have not heard about any plans for a T2TRG meeting … but normally they do have one prior to IETF, which is in five weeks Koster: will contact Ari and see McCool: I think a joint call would be helpful to get updates on IETF activities, ASDF, etc... … also REST api for iot, edge computing (Eve Schooler contact) McCool: for IETF, need to go through calendar and see what's scheduled … some relevant activities around JSON, etc. Sebastian: for OPC-UA, we have been talking to validation group … but it seems it was not quite the right group for a OPC-UA binding for WoT … so since there does not seem to be an appropriate group, proposing to make a "companion group" … to create a binding Sebastian: so now propose working on a joint charter; also need to understand what companies would be interested Sebastian: Siemens will definitely support this activity Sebastian: need to define mostly vocabulary for OPC-UA binding Kaz: wondering if expected relationship would be included in current liaison … may have to talk to W3C management again to see if we need a stronger liaison … especially if a spec is being created Kaz: for example, SDW group worked with OGC on joint specs Sebastian: probably first need to sketch the charter, then can share with W3M to get feedback Koster: does this *have* to be done under OPC-UA? Are IP policies consistent with W3C? Sebastian: if we do it as a joint charter, we can include W3C members that don't have to be OPC-UA members Koster: we should also look at certification requirements Lagally: what mjk said is important, so we need to fix policies around IP, goals, etc. Lagally: some clear use cases and scenarios that bring value to industry; what is benefit of integration? Lagally: need some draft terms of reference Lagally: in general this also applies to integration with other standards, e.g. MQTT <kaz> +1 Sebastian: yes, this is something we have to do anyway as part of the charter Lagally: does it make sense to write a use case? Kaz: before create a draft charter, perhaps we should have expected deliverables <mjk> I would like to understand if a WoT TD binding for OPC UA will create an open user community, like the web Sebastian: we would benefit if other standards can use WoT <mjk> So a zigbee binding, if only useful to zigbee members? McCool: we could add OPC-UA to existing use cases (eg factory, smart city, building, etc) but perhaps another "horizontal" use case for "cross-standard mashups" would be useful to document this application of WoT (which includes OPC-UA but also other standards) Kaz: suggest we should see how to use our existing W3C liaison McCool: and we should clarify if OPC-UA joint group is needed Sebastian: next steps, we should look at alternatives McCool: don't think anyone is against it, we just need to go through the process Sebastian: perhaps should start with sketching a use case, then we can discuss Lagally: makes sense; is there a template? <McCool> s/charter and use case/ <kaz> a/sketching a use case/sketching a charter and use cases/ McCool: there are a few other topics of future interest from ISO and IEC (Common Data Directory) Kaz: had discussion with a guy working on the IEC CDD standard; maybe invite to use case call … and also it might be interesting to refer to their ontologies Sebastian: kaz, will you invite to use case call then? Kaz: yes Task Force Reports Daniel: how to identify version McCool: security worked on PRs for apikey and psk, and uri templates McCool: for discovery, talked about vocabulary and alternativeResponses McCool: all of the above will be discussed in TD call today Sebastian: for marketing, looked at videos and web pages … for web page content, looked at tutorials McCool: plugfest, worked on logistics and got started in organizing repo, scenarios, etc. Sebastian: several prs that need input from ml Lagally: unfortunately hard for me to attend td call Kaz: had a report last week on this Lagally: consolidated repos, walked some new members through process Lagally: architecture, terminology definitions for partial TDs, TD fragments, etc. to get consistent use of these terms … also some FPWD feedback from Ben, pushed out to next call … on profiles <kaz> [main call adjourned; PF call in 7 mins] Summary of action items 1. 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