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[wot-discovery] minutes - 24 May 2021

From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 12:45:39 +0900
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also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Ege!



      [1] https://www.w3.org/

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                             WoT Discovery

24 May 2021

   [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#24_May_2021

      [3] https://www.w3.org/2021/05/24-wot-discovery-irc


          Andrea_Cimmino, Ben_Francis, Cristiano_Aguzzi,
          Ege_Korkan, Farshid_Tavakoizadeh, Kaz_Ashimura,
          Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima





    1. [4]Minutes Review
    2. [5]Publication
    3. [6]PRs

Meeting minutes

  Minutes Review

   <kaz> [7]May-17

      [7] https://www.w3.org/2021/05/17-wot-discovery-minutes.html

   McCool: any objections?

   (none and approved)


   McCool: Update on the publication
   íK we should talk about the discovery slot in the F2F

   <kaz> [8]Proposed Topics within the vF2F agenda

      [8] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_June_2021#Proposed_Topics

   McCool: (edits the agenda with the relevant topics)


   McCool: what order should we do these?

   Farshid: the top two are easy

   <kaz> [9]PR 179 - Replace interaction affordances in directory
   TD with a single link to its API endpoint

      [9] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/179

   Ben: the third one influences the other ones

   Ben: independently, with Ege, we seemed to have reached the
   conclusion that the TD is not needed

   McCool: we have two uses for it, using @type to detect Thing or

   Ben: we replace the TD that had all the affordances with a link
   íK an advanced consumer would use the specification (human
   readable version)
   íK one question is the events

   McCool: we can still add affordance

   Ben: it proved difficult to describe everything in a TD

   Ben: so we should do that out of band

   Ben: why do we need the API to be protocol agnostic? we can
   make a new API for another protocol later on

   <kaz> [10]Issue 178 - Review Comments from Ege Korkan

     [10] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/178

   Ege: In my issue, I did not mean that it should be protocol
   agnostic but what are the important parts of the API so that
   another protocol could also pay attention to that

   McCool: let's ask for opinions

   Andrea: I feel that it will make it difficult for features like

   Farshid: but how do we find other endpoints

   Andrea: we are not removing the affordances by moving them to
   the uri variables

   Cristiano: we should pay attention to the fact that security
   does not apply to the links

   McCool: that is true, can you open an issue in the TD spec

   Ege: we can also move it from links to a property

   McCool: There is also Issue 178

   McCool: There is a philosophical discussion whether TDD is a
   Thing or not

   McCool: Intel's motivation is to do mashups of Things and

   Cristiano: I think that TDD service is a very important part of
   the WoT

   Ben: I don't think it makes sense to try to describe any
   service in a TD

   Ben: by removing the TDD TD for now, we can solve the
   describing collection related issues in the meantime and have a
   TD for TDD later

   (sorry I have forgotten to take minutes for the last 15 mins)
   but the discussions are documented by mm at Issue 178

   [11]McCool;s comments on Issue 178

     [11] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/178#issuecomment-847126523

   <cris> btw I also agree that we should really be careful to not
   create a bad designed TD, but I think the propose refactors
   would improve the situation

   <kaz> [12]PR 158 - Combine properties into a single things

     [12] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/158

   <kaz> [13]McCool's comments

     [13] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/158#issuecomment-847146156

   <kaz> [14]PR 160 - Rename actions to match properties and

     [14] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/160

   McCool: we do not have time left to work on the issues
   íK I suggest that people continue commenting on the issue 178

   <McCool> [15]https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/178

     [15] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/178

   <kaz> [adjourned]

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