- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 16:17:26 +0900
- To: public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2020/10/15-wot-arch-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Sebastian!
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
WoT Architecture
15 Oct 2020
[2]Agenda
[2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Architecture_WebConf#Agenda
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Lagally, Hazel_Kuok,
Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch,
Cristiano_Aguzzi, Farshid_Tavakolizadeh,
Tomoaki_Mizushima, Zoltan_Kis
Regrets
Chair
Lagally
Scribe
sebastian, kaz
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]minutes check from last times
2. [5]Check latest Arch Spec Draft
3. [6]Issues
4. [7]Profiles
5. [8]Shortname for 1.1 version publication
* [9]Summary of Action Items
* [10]Summary of Resolutions
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<kaz> scribenick: sebastian
minutes check from last times
<kaz> [11]vF2F Day 1
[11] https://www.w3.org/2020/10/05-wot-minutes.html
goal of today's meeting to get resolution for the FPWD specs
Lagally: Checks the minutes from first vF2F day 1
... any changes needed?
no objections
<kaz> [12]vF2F Day 2
[12] https://www.w3.org/2020/10/07-wot-minutes.html
Lagally: shows the minutes from second vF2F
... any objections?
no
Check latest Arch Spec Draft
Lagally: shows some new commits
[13]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/commits/master
[13] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/commits/master
Lagally: some paragraphs was deleted by accident
... this is now restored
... there was mistake about some place holder of the Thing
Model. Its now removed
<inserted> [14]restoring original content that was
accidentially deleted in section 6.7
[14] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/commit/712ad5341e66013fde81e2247bca8a47a8e00377
Lagally: did some respec fixes
... there are two PRs
[15]PR 562
[15] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/562
Cristiano: its about candidates for UI link types
Lagally: suggest not to consider this for the FPWD
<kaz> [16]PR 563
[16] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/563
Lagally: PR for including a changelog compared to the Arch 1.0
... any objections to merge this PR?
McCool: Im ok with it
no objections
is merged
<kaz> [17]Changes from ver 1.0
[17] https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/563.html#changes
<kaz> [18]PR 528
[18] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/528
PR [19]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/528
[19] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/528
Lagally: suggest to postpone this to next call.
McCool: We can submit this to the BLD CG for review
<scribe> ACTION: sebastian send a email to the LBD CG group
<McCool> [20]https://www.w3.org/community/lbd/
[20] https://www.w3.org/community/lbd/
Issues
<kaz> [21]Issue 545
[21] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/545
<kaz> (closed)
<kaz> [22]Issue 552
[22] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/552
issue [23]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/552
[23] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/552
this issue will be deferred
<kaz> [24]Lifecycle intro text
[24] https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/563.html#lifecycle
[25]Issue 551
[25] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/551
Create introductory text that introduces the concepts from the
succeeding chapters.
<kaz> [26]Section 8.1
[26] https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/563.html#sec-architecture-overview
Lagally: what is your opinion about this?
McCool: would be good, but not possible today
<mlagally_> proposal: publish the current contents of the
master branch on [27]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture as
FPWD
[27] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture
Lagally: It is still okay to leave this as it is and use the
specification as it is?
no objections
RESOLUTION: publish the current contents of the master branch
on [28]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture as FPWD
[28] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture
Profiles
<kaz> [29]fixing respec
[29] https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/commit/935d53b05dad3266c2d99862aa96e1749ad49128
<kaz> [30]PR 51
[30] https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/51
overview of the PRs
[31]https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pulls
[31] https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pulls
its about canonical json representation
<kaz> [32]5.3.1 Canonical TD representation
[32] https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/51.html#canonical-td-representations
Sebastian: maybe we should replace "string" with "value"
Lagally: that is the reason why we need canonical
representation that organize the order
McCool: This was also a topic in the joint JSON-LD call.
Important topic
... its not a easy topic.
Lagally: should be synchronized with the JSON-LD group
... what should we do with it right now?
McCool: question if we want to have this in the profile spec
<inserted> scribenick: kaz
Sebastian: this is kind of related to TD
... general topic to be clarified
... so would postpone the discussion
... not good to be mentioned only here within the WoT Profile
... to be discussed for the Thing Description as well
Lagally: ok
... let's keep this open then
[33]PR 52
[33] https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/52
[34]Abstract
[34] https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-profile/52/935d53b...5804a88.html#abstract
Lagally: (goes through the diff preview)
McCool: a couple of comments on possible "other" profiles
... name of the profile as ID
... saying "describe" is too strong here
Lagally: what would be good then?
McCool: e.g., "identify"
Lagally: so far there is only one profile here
... also we don't expect the FPWD of the WoT Profile defines
everything
McCool: we need to decide if this is a single thing
... or just due to some constraint
Sebastian: it's concerning the first sentence
... problem with "Core" Profile
... saying "The WoT Profile Specification defines a WoT Core
Profile, which enables out of the box interoperability among
things and devices."
McCool: would be simpler to say "which defines..."
Lagally: ok
[35]5.2 Protocol Binding
[35] https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-profile/52/935d53b...5804a88.html#protocol-binding
Lagally: (goes through the Note there)
<inserted> "The HTTP protocol binding is not meant to be
exclusive"
Lagally: we don't mandate HTTP
McCool: but mandated by the user
Lagally: can update the first sentence of the Abstract
Sebastian: notification protocols
Lagally: if we mention subprotocols here, would it suffice?
... can easily add changes
Sebastian: ok
Kaz: wondering about the concrete text for the 2nd bullet point
from the Abstract
McCool: ok with the current text of the bullet points *for the
FPWD*
Kaz: ok
Lagally: (adds updates accordingly)
McCool: (proposes to say "specific subprotocols" for
notification)
Lagally: done
... but we still have 3 more PRs
Sebastian: PR 48 can be closed
[36]PR 48
[36] https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/48
Lagally: ok
... (adds a comment and close it)
... and then the final one
[37]PR 50
[37] https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/50
Lagally: we don't mandate anything for other profiles
McCool: that's fine
Lagally: so if we apply the remaining two points, we can merge
this PR
... would merge the PR itself first, and then apply the two
remaining comments
... (merges PR 50 itself)
... (and then add edits for the remaining two comments)
... now we have an updated draft for publication :)
... but got another respec issue :(
<mlagally_> proposal: publish the current contents of the
master branch on [38]https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile as FPWD
[38] https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile
RESOLUTION: publish the current contents of the master branch
on [39]https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile as FPWD
[39] https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile
Shortname for 1.1 version publication
Kaz: regarding the shortname URL, the suggestion of Ralph and
PLH was using "11" for ver 1.1
... so "wot-architecture11"
... these days that notation is the most common one
<sebastian> what about wot-architecture/v1.1
[adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: sebastian send a email to the LBD CG group
Summary of Resolutions
1. [40]publish the current contents of the master branch on
https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture as FPWD
2. [41]publish the current contents of the master branch on
https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile as FPWD
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