- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2020 15:52:31 +0900
- To: public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at: https://www.w3.org/2020/08/24-wot-minutes.html also as text below. Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Zoltan! Kazuyuki --- [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - WoT Scripting API 24 Aug 2020 Attendees Present Kaz_Ashimura, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Jakob_Weigand, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Zoltan_Kis Regrets Chair Zoltan Scribe zkis Contents * [2]Topics 1. [3]Guest 2. [4]PRs 3. [5]PR239, https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/239 4. [6]issue # 237 5. [7]issue #244 * [8]Summary of Action Items * [9]Summary of Resolutions __________________________________________________________ <scribe> scribe: zkis Guest Jacob Weigand is a guest from TUM today, and aware of the W3C Patent Policy PRs PR 246, [10]https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/246 [10] https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/246 Zoltan: w3cid to be completed, please add a commit Cristiano: will do PR239, [11]https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/239 [11] https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/239 Cristiano: went through the doc for corrections ... a major modification is adding the writeAllProperties() method ... also, changed an algorithm name Zoltan: I agree with the algorithm name Daniel: a comment about writeAll: would not spend too much time on that since it's going to go away ... in the TD spec Zoltan: do we know what is in the writeAll Form, since the algorithm might depend on that? ... what about moving the writeAll commit to a branch and wait for the TD spec? Cristiano: we could do that Daniel: we could do everything with writeMultiple Cristiano: though that it was writeMultiple will go away Daniel: maybe we will need writeAll in the future, but I also think we should wait with adding writeAll Cristiano: we could add an editor's note why don't we have it Zoltan: right Daniel: and say we could use just writeMultiple Zoltan: ok, so these PRs will get changes and then merges issue # 237 <dape> [12]https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/237 [12] https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/237 <inserted> [13]Scripting API draft - D. Full Web IDL [13] https://w3c.github.io/wot-scripting-api/#idl-index Jacob: Ege asked to make a demo with the problem ... MQTT cannot communicate an error in the subscription ... when the server is dropping, the Scripting API does not provide an error in the subscription ... the next subscribe request should fail ... same with longpoll ... there is also a race condition Zoltan: we have 2 options: a separate object for a subscription with an error event, or put the error event on ConsumedThing Cristiano: would prefer the first Daniel: we could have a generic error (call?) ... or an object that can point to new errors Ege: we need to know which the subscription the error belonged Cristiano: right, which is why prefer the first option Daniel: a generic error listener also means the client has to filter (also mentioned by Ege) Zoltan: so we could revert to a kind of Observable Jacob: I thought about adding an error listener to the observe() and subscribe() Daniel: I see benefit in managing it with a subscribe object since we shift complexity ... the implementation tracks subscriptions automatically Zoltan: Kaz, what was the deadline for publication in last WG call? end of September? Daniel: I thought it was beginning of September Zoltan: we have a lot of changes, we could also make 2 publications Daniel: we should make less publications since implementations need to change ... node-wot would wait for the revised API Kaz: publication time is based on the TF decision ... could be done quickly or we can wait for another update and publish the document a bit later Zoltan: we should go by DP's proposal and adjust the publication date Kaz: please note that Scripting API is a WG Note for the current Charter Zoltan: what about versioning the Scripting API itself Daniel: not sure will it be a URL or a version string Zoltan: do we have a need for an interface file def with a given version as a package dependency? Ege: for what use case, for telling old or new APIs apart? <Ege> [14]https://github.com/eclipse/thingweb.node-wot/tree/master/ex amples/templates/exposed-thing#change-from-version-06x-to-07x-f or-exposed-things [14] https://github.com/eclipse/thingweb.node-wot/tree/master/examples/templates/exposed-thing#change-from-version-06x-to-07x-for-exposed-things Zoltan: node-wot defines a version and also refers to the Scripting API spec it implements Daniel: it defines a version right now, it includes TS definitions that are also published on npm Zoltan: anyway it's doable to include the TR link for Scripting from node-wot ... we need a label that we can easily connect the two Cristiano: I agree, like node-wot is implementing the 0.8 API spec. ... another issue is that in TS we can add links back to definitions Zoltan: makes sense Daniel: the problem is that if you update the spec we need the permalinks issue #244 Zoltan: there is validation for consume() and not for the construction Cristiano: it should be the other way around Zoltan: constructor is just a JS object constructor ... validation needs a factory method Cristiano: validation could be done synchronously Daniel: consume() and constructor should do the same Zoltan: looks like that is possible ... ok, so let's change the issue name and track it there Daniel: we have similar issue for produce() Zoltan: let's continue the discussion next time Ege: a quick question, for reviewing created a fork and empty branch, should I make the PR in the Scripting? Zoltan: AOB adjourned Summary of Action Items Summary of Resolutions [End of minutes] __________________________________________________________ Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by David Booth's [15]scribe.perl version ([16]CVS log) $Date: 2020/08/26 10:50:07 $ [15] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [16] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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