- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2020 16:17:36 +0900
- To: public-wot-ig@w3.org, public-wot-wg@w3.org
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https://www.w3.org/2020/05/20-wot-pf-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks,
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
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PlugFest/Testing
20 May 2020
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan,
Farshid_Tavakolizadeh, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster,
Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Ryuichi_Matsukura,
Takahisa_Suzuki, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
Chair
McCool
Scribe
kaz
Contents
* [2]Topics
1. [3]PlugFest schedule
2. [4]PlugFest topics
3. [5]Prototypes/Proposals
4. [6]Testing
5. [7]WISHI workshop
6. [8]AOB
* [9]Summary of Action Items
* [10]Summary of Resolutions
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PlugFest schedule
[11]Plugfest wiki
[11] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_1-12_June_2020,_Online#Plugfest
McCool: let's confirm if these slots are still OK by all
<scribe> ACTION: kaz to create a doodle to see if the proposed
slots are still OK by all
McCool: what about the registration site?
[12]registration site
[12] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/wot-f2f-202006/
McCool: the date within the title to be fixed
Kaz: will do
<scribe> ACTION: kaz to fix the date within the title of the
registration site
McCool: next thing to talk about
... we should collect topics for the f2f part
<inserted> [13]F2F topics
[13] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_1-12_June_2020,_Online#F2F_Topics_.28Tentative.29
Ege: any open day this time?
McCool: what does "open day" mean this time?
Ege: have some people in my mind to invite
Kaz: we can add a section to the f2f wiki about possible
invited guests
McCool: and we should make decision in advance
... note that we have pretty tight schedule this time
Kaz: before adding actual candidate names to the public wiki,
we could have preliminary discussion on the Member list
McCool: yeah
... on the other hand, don't want to use much time for invited
guests since we have limitation this time as I already
mentioned
... let's discuss that during the main call
PlugFest topics
[14]Plugfest logistics
[14] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_1-12_June_2020,_Online#Virtual_F2F_and_Plugfest_Logistics
McCool: some topics listed here so far
... Ege, what about binding templates?
Ege: nice to talk about that
McCool: 1h enough?
Ege: yes
... investigation of ROS, etc.
... by 15m
McCool: ok
... 1h + 15m for you
... what about you, Lagally?
Lagally: use cases for 2h
... and profiles for 2h
Danie: API changes for scripting?
McCool: will you talk about that yourself?
Danie: or Zoltan
McCool: 1h enough?
Danie: yes
McCool: regarding security
... review issues including OAuth2 should take 1.5h
... and plugfest report for 1h
... anything else?
Ege: TD topics like TD template?
McCool: tentatively put 2h for TD
... discovery has 1h
... got some progress on the agenda
Prototypes/Proposals
[15]Prototypes and Proposals
[15] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_1-12_June_2020,_Online#Prototypes_and_Proposals
McCool: test of device flow for OAuth2?
... need to go back and read the docs/specs again
... should keep consistency with open api
Danie: code flow is similar to this. right?
McCool: how to deal with credentials to respond to actual
person
... need to read the spec
Farshid: possible m2m coordination as well
McCool: which flows make sense for IoT?
... any other protytypes, ideas?
Danie: look into eventing
... and dynamic TD creation
... which offers more capability
... could be part of "Hypermedia Controls"
Ege: yes
Kaz: if you want, we could add a sub-bullet point explicitly
McCool: we have MQTT protocol binding?
... any implementation?
Ege: yes
... within node-wot
McCool: note that there is a difference between the "Prototype
section and the "PoC" section
... topics on the "Prototypes" section are expected to be
included in the specs (directly)
Testing
[16]Testing
[16] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_1-12_June_2020,_Online#Testing
McCool: we're not really sure about what to be tested this time
... need to add clarifications
Kaz: so people are encouraged to add their ideas to the
"Testing" section as well
McCool: yes
... there are multiple purposes this time
... should clarify the features to be tested this time
... and then scenarios
[17]Use cases ans scenarios
[17] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_1-12_June_2020,_Online#Use_Cases_and_Scenarios
McCool: several question marks here
... for example, what kind of scenario is expected for "Smart
Agriculture"?
Matsukura: some demonstration is available
McCool: demo is mainly for TPAC. right?
Matsukura: yeah
McCool: smart store is still in-flight
... smart agriculture topic is brought from Singapore as well
... so your introducing your scenario to them would be helpful
... also I could work on a possible scenario on "buying an
ice-cream" for smart store
... (puts some ideas)
Kaz: so you'd like to ask Matsukura-san to clarify some
possible scenario like that, wouldn't you?
McCool: right
... (shows his slides on Conexxus collab presented the other
day)
... for example, a camera put on the store
... and freezer door opens based on the sensor
... and then various things there
... so would be great to have some scenario like this
... for smart agriculture use case
... e.g., temperature sensor, weather forecast, ...
... assuming those things talk with the smart greenhouse
... we should document a possible typical scenario within the
use case template itself as well
... what the person does, etc.
(who/when/where/why/what/how)
McCool: and how to populate the data
... adapting the functionality to the store in this ice-cream
use case
... maybe could replace some of the features
... so what I'm asking Matsukura-san is adding links to the
existing materials first and also clarify the scenario (=what
happens when)
... make sense?
Matsukura: yes
... will generate a possible scenario then
McCool: great
... would let you do that then
WISHI workshop
[18]WISHI workshop part
[18] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_1-12_June_2020,_Online#T2TRG.2FWoT_Workshop_Topics_.28Tentative.29
McCool: met with the WISHI guys
... expected speakers here
[19]requests to speak
[19] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_1-12_June_2020,_Online#Requests_to_Speak
McCool: Michael Lagally for use case process and overview
... Henry Andrews for JSON Schema
... note that we only have 3h for the workshop
... there are still 30mins left
... if someone has a topic for 30mins, please let me know
AOB
McCool: aob?
Ege: playground is getting updated but not before the plugfest
this time
McCool: in that case, need to use the current version?
Ege: right
... will fix bugs
... but won't add new features yet
McCool: you can use playground as of today
... will work on the preparation topics
... anything else?
Farshid: what about directory service?
McCool: the question is if you're planning to talk about
something
... would be happy to have you talk about LinkSmart work
... maybe talk about it as part of the "WoT Discovery" during
the WISHI workshop
... (adds a "20+10m" slot for that)
Kaz: Farshid, are you interested in presentation? or plugfest?
Farshid: could do both
McCool: this presentation itself is for the WISHI workshop
... exposure for the IRTF guys as well
... and as far as implementations, should be handled as part of
the PlugFest
... should describe where/how it works
... once your setting is done, wold be great to put the
information
Farshid: would like to talk about the detail during the
discovery call next Monday
McCool: ok
... (tentatively adds a talk on discovery to the WISHI
workshop)
... will make sure about the logistics for the workshop
[adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: kaz to create a doodle to see if the proposed
slots are still OK by all
[NEW] ACTION: kaz to fix the date within the title of the
registration site
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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