- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2020 12:33:42 +0900
- To: public-wot-wg@w3.org
Sorry but apparently the minutes from the TD call on Jan 10 didn't go out, so resending. The minutes from the TD call on 10 January 2002 are available at: https://www.w3.org/2020/01/10-wot-td-minutes.html also as text below. Thanks a lot for taking the miutes, Daniel! Kazuyuki --- [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - WoT-WG - TD-TF 10 Jan 2020 [2]Agenda [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#Agenda Attendees Present Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Taki_Kamiya, Klaus_Hartke, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Daniel_Peintner, Toamoaki_Mizushima, Michael_Lagally, Victor_Charpenay, Ege_Korkan, Zoltan_Kis Regrets Chair Sebastian Scribe Daniel Contents * [3]Topics 1. [4]Thing Description 1. [5]Agenda bashing 2. [6]Public minutes 3. [7]F2F Helsinki 4. [8]Media type registration 5. [9]1 PR after transition call 6. [10]Future time slot of TD call 7. [11]TD issues for new version 2. [12]Protocol Binding 3. [13]Public minutes * [14]Summary of Action Items * [15]Summary of Resolutions __________________________________________________________ <kaz> scribenick: dape Thing Description Agenda bashing Sebastian: Talk about next steps for new charter ... in the past we had some issues we postponed to this new charter ... kind of kick-off call ... prioritize topics ... another topic will be F2F meeting in Helsinki ... next open PR, minor update as decided with PLH ... reference change only ... discussions about time slot, new slot? ... overview about open issues. Started to categorize them Sebastian+Ege: Binding templates ~ 20 minutes Public minutes <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to remind all that the minutes will be published publicly on the public list Hartke: media type registration, need to go in 45 minutes Kaz: wanted to remind all that this and future calls minutes will be public ... Arch TF decided to review the minutes before publishing... at least the first weeks Sebastian: Yes, public minutes are something new now F2F Helsinki <inserted> [16]McCool's message on Helsinki f2f [16] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2020Jan/thread.html#msg2 McCool: Sent email ... have to book meeting rooms immediately ... email asks for input ... e.g., PlugFest before/after meeting et cetera ... ICWE, who is going? Conflicts? ... OpenDay maybe during the conference ... on Monday ... T2TRG topics should be covered also ... MMC Proposal: ... 1. Plugfest during week, Monday - Tuesday ... 2. Group f2F meeting Wed to Friday (3-5 June) ... 3. Weekend would be free ... 4. Minday June 8 T2TRG workshop on discovery ... 5. Info night (mini open day) during conference, Tuesday June 9 ... need to talk about attendance Sebastian: I have the concern that the F2F lasts very long (10 days), budget issue? McCool: people can skip parts (e.g, PlugFest and join 2nd part only) ... logistical problems with university Ege: Why not pushing group meeting & PlugFest to later dates, 1 week only McCool: T2TRG conflicts? <All> : sketching alternatives Sebastian: prefer more packed meeting, need to confirm that we can have PlugFest during weekend McCool: will check Lagally: stretching the meeting to more than a week is difficult ... started to talk about "discovery" in Arch TF already. Should get clear agenda and goals. McCool: can schedule joint T2TRG call Kaz: wondering if we really need to have 3-day group meeting? 2 days ok? Sebastian: in prev meetings we had 2,5 days (e.g., Princeton) ... I think 2 days such as during TPAC is not enough, prefer 2,5 to 3 days McCool: Will book 3 days so that we can decide later ... will send out email about the decided dates Zoltan: can book rooms also at Intel, have big rooms also (70-80 people) McCool: Could also have entire meeting at Intel Zoltan: Aalto is better place because of metro station Media type registration Hartke: got email from IANA ... expert has reviewed TD media type template ... 3 questions: we have to confirm our position ... 1. question: security considerations, want to have section referenced ... like "see Section 12 of RFC8259" ... 2. question: "Section 7 of what?" ---> see Section 7 TD of reference ... text will be purely copied ... 3. question: similar to question 2, add reference again Sebastian: Can create PR to fix these issues ... will check also with W3C management Kaz: Yes, please mention comments from IANA Sebastian: Thanks Klaus! 1 PR after transition call Sebastian: had meeting this week with PLH and Ralph ... checked all issues, implementation report ... we were requested to change reference to SSE ... SSE is now part of HTML. Hence we should update our reference and that's what the PR is about <kaz> [17]Server-Sent Events from the HTML Living Standard [17] https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/server-sent-events.html#server-sent-events Sebastian: added term "EventSource" which is the new name for SSE ... same change in Arch document Lagally: Yes, we did the same change in Arch document Sebastian: OK, merge PR#873 Kaz: Single section talking about EventSource in HTML document? Sebastian: Section 9.2 Server-Sent events <kaz> HTML Living Standard Kaz: to be strict, the document title is "HTML Living Standard", so I'm wondering if it's OK to call it "HTML Standard" within the reference Sebastian: reSpec generates the title automatically Kaz: OK, please let me quickly check with PLH and Ralph to make sure Future time slot of TD call Sebastian: we used to have this time slot since beginning ... afternoon in Asia ... America during night ... for MMC it is now 3 am in the morning ... not sure what we can do now. Architecture decided to pick 2 slots. Does not work out for me ... maybe we best setup new doodle call Kaz: Yes, let's do so Sebastian: Okay, will setup doodle poll TD issues for new version Sebastian: would like to remove all labels "defer to next TD spec version" ... started to create categories ... 4 major topics (maybe more) ... JSON schema, see [18]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues?q=is%3A issue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22JSON+Schema%22 ... e.g. reference JSON schema contructs, support more JSON schema terms, ... [18] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:"JSON+Schema" McCool: should coordinate with others aboute JSON schema features used Sebastian: Yes, should stay in touch with handrews ... next category "TD Templates", see [19]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues?q=is%3A issue+is%3Aopen+sort%3Acomments-desc+label%3A%22TD+Template%22 [19] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+sort:comments-desc+label:"TD+Template" McCool: work item for link relation, link to master template ... may have more than 1 master ... link relation is mentioned in charter, no issue yet Sebastian: next category "Security", see [20]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues?q=is%3A issue+is%3Aopen+sort%3Acomments-desc+label%3ASecurity ... e.g, OAuth flow [20] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+sort:comments-desc+label:Security McCool: OAuth and PoP are highest priority Sebastian: Another category "Optimization", see [21]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues?q=is%3A issue+is%3Aopen+sort%3Acomments-desc+label%3AOptimization [21] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+sort:comments-desc+label:Optimization McCool: is JSON-LD looking at CBOR? Sebastian: Not sure, can ask ... there were some activities a while ago <victor> (my microphone is not working): there is a WG note to be written on JSON-LD with binary specs. I was asked to lead this activity Sebastian: also topics about optimize TD, e.g, having base field per protocol ... idea to define contentType in a global manner Victor: on topic of binary encodings ... was asked by JSON-LD group to write a document about binary encoding ... ways to optimize JSON-LD context ... if you are interested please send me email ... no content yet, had a first meeting with XXX Sebastian: Note: there are likely more issues and categories of issues in TD <victor> see Github repo for binary JSON-LD: [22]https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-cbor [22] https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-cbor Sebastian: will work on that the next days __________________________________________________________ Protocol Binding Ege: binding templates is in review phase ... got comments from toumura and DP <ege> [23]https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/88 [23] https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/88 Ege: e.g. WoT client/server and Comsumer/Things ... fixed in PR#88 ... Discussions needed about [24]https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/issues/87 ... XML schema and media types ... Let's look at XML examples [24] https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/issues/87 Taki: For completeness we need to describe name pattern ... agree we can shorten text ... still need to describe name pattern ... otherwise mapping is incomplete Ege: same for array Kaz: I think keeping the current style is OK ... we can highlight which part is reused if needed Ege: can mark redundancy in XML snippet ... or having tabbed examples like in TD ... will highlight in examples what has been re-used ... Next topic is about media type vs content types McCool: contentTypes includes media type and adds options Ege: MQTT also uses content types ... will check in which part we refer to media type and in which part we refer to content type ... will incorporate changes ... in PR#88 ... editors draft ready for next main call ... anyone still planning to write reviews? Sebastian: Thanks Ege __________________________________________________________ Public minutes Kaz: Note: minutes will be public ... do we want to review minutes first? Sebastian: Propose sending draft minutes out first. If there is no objection make them public Kaz: OK, will send the draft minutes to the member-wot-wg list first, and if there is no objection we can send them out to the public-wot-wg list after the WoT main call on Wednesday Summary of Action Items Summary of Resolutions [End of minutes] __________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [25]scribe.perl version 1.152 ([26]CVS log) $Date: 2020/01/13 08:27:16 $ [25] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [26] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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