- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 16:49:25 +0900
- To: public-wot-ig@w3.org, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at: https://www.w3.org/2020/08//05-wot-minutes.html also as text below. Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Michael McCool! Kazuyuki --- [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - WoT-IG/WG 05 Aug 2020 [2]Agenda [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#5_August_2020 Attendees Present Kaz_Ashimura, Jennifer_Lin, Daniel_Peintner, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Ryuichi_Matsukura, David_Ezell Regrets Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster Chair Sebastian, McCool Scribe McCool Contents * [3]Topics 1. [4]Guests 2. [5]Prev minutes 3. [6]MiniApps 4. [7]Publishing 5. [8]APAN 50 6. [9]IETF108 and WISHI 7. [10]New timeslot for Arch 8. [11]Conexxus strategy meeting 9. [12]ITU-T liaison 10. [13]Updated schedule 11. [14]TPAC F2F planning 12. [15]Cancellations 13. [16]Task force report - mainly Marketing * [17]Summary of Action Items * [18]Summary of Resolutions __________________________________________________________ <kaz> scribenick: McCool Guests no guests today Prev minutes review minutes: [19]https://www.w3.org/2020/07/29-wot-minutes.html [19] https://www.w3.org/2020/07/29-wot-minutes.html any objections? hearing none, minutes will be published MiniApps Sebastian: MiniApps, kaz and daniel joined, please give us an update <sebastian> [20]https://www.w3.org/2020/07/miniapp-virtual-meeting/agenda.h tml [20] https://www.w3.org/2020/07/miniapp-virtual-meeting/agenda.html Kaz: miniapps is platform for web application mashup ... proposed by the MiniApps CG participants, e.g., Huawei, Xiaomi, Alibaba, etc. ... there was a proposal to form a WG, but my impression is they might want to start with an IG to clarify further possible use cases and requirements from global industry viewpoint as well Sebastian: any relation to WoT? McCool: connection to WoT: overlap with PWAs needs to be sorted out, then PWA are (potentially) connected to edge computing which is (potentially) connected to WoT Kaz: proposed a joint meeting (either during the WoT main call or during TPAC) to have discussion during the MiniApps meeting Daniel: think it would be beneficial for them to explain their point of view and goals ... there could be some relation with respect to scripting at least ... slides and videos were meant to be reviewed in advance, watch for that McCool: in general, watch out for "homework required" calls Sebastian: mainly concentrated on mobile, right? ... anyhow, let's see if we set up a joint meeting Kaz: ok, I will ask for a meeting McCool: also good to add this to F2F wiki page, with topics "scripting" and "edge computing" Publishing [21]Publishing@W3C Webinar [21] https://www.w3.org/2020/07/publ-webinar/ Kaz: there are WG, BG and CG on Publishing@W3C ... paper and online publishing companies used to be interested in epub format for ebooks ... but getting also interested in media in general and further collaboration, so I proposed joint meetings, one with MEIG and another with WoT McCool: for media control? Kaz: yes; mostly looking at ebooks, but now also looking at tv-based browsers, etc. Sebastian: ok, let's add that to the joint meeting list; topic "Media control" Kaz: also synchronization APAN 50 [22]APAN 50 [22] https://apan50.hk/ Kaz: Kiura-san, the Agriculture CG Chair, invited me to a conference related to smart cities and smart agriculture in Asian areas ... there were two sessions, "Rural hybridization" and "Open & Sharing Data" * [23]Rural hybridization session https://apan2020.apan.net/?p=444 * [24]Open & Sharing Data [24] https://apan2020.apan.net/?p=440 McCool: this overlaps somewhat with the smart cities activities within W3C ... logistics of delivery, for instance Kaz: Kiura-san and some more presenters there want to have joint discussion with us, so I'd like to invite them to one of the WoT main calls IETF108 and WISHI McCool: did not go to IETF108, should ask Koster for an update later ... as for WISHI, main topic was microsoft's DTDL ... which overlaps with TDTs ... an open question is whether there is a direct mapping between the two <sebastian> [25]https://codimd.ietf.org/t2trg-wishi-2020-07-30-notes# [25] https://codimd.ietf.org/t2trg-wishi-2020-07-30-notes Sebastian: another topic was CoAP and RDF for protocol binding ... we talked about supporting this through IANA, since they already have machine-readable formats eg XML ... and it might be possible to do a mechanical and automatic mapping, and maybe have them host it ... and might be possible to implement this mapping with XSLT ... if we did this, it would save us a lot of time Lagally: on dtdl, is a certain overlap, harmonization with tdt ... want to see how we can do alignment, for instance around profiles ... in general we should actively engage with them, and we should work hard to avoid fragmentation Sebastian: my understanding is that they also wish to avoid fragmentation, and are aware of WoT, and are open to collaboration ... next step is to invite them to main call, and possibly also TD call; they are already W3C and WoT members, easy for them to join Lagally: maybe a use case call... understand why they did their own data format Sebastian: probably next step is main call ... then discuss next steps Kaz: who to invite? Sebastian: Brian Crawford from Microsoft New timeslot for Arch Sebastian: updated on wiki page, call table McCool: also updated outlook invites * [26]Arch wiki https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Architecture_WebConf * [27]Webconf table [27] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_Page#WebConf_Meetings Conexxus strategy meeting [28]Conexxus Strategy Meeting 2020 [28] https://www.conexxus.org/events/asc-2020 David: will be recording a call today ... Kristen Call and Michael McCool will be talking about standards and WoT there ... and talking about node-RED, etc. ... have had resonance McCool: will have to look at video we have to see if it can be used ITU-T liaison Sebastian: in progress... use case discussion in progress, meeting tomorrow Lagally: if people have time to reviews <mlagally> All SG 20 documents: [29]https://www.itu.int/ITU-T/recommendations/index_sg.aspx?sg= 20 Here are the individual references for the documents mentioned on the call: https://www.itu.int/ITU-T/recommendations/index_sg.aspx?sg=20 * [30]https://www.itu.int/ITU-T/recommendations/rec.aspx?rec=1169 9 https://www.itu.int/ITU-T/recommendations/rec.aspx?rec=11699 * [31]https://www.itu.int/ITU-T/recommendations/rec.aspx?rec=1264 7 https://www.itu.int/ITU-T/recommendations/rec.aspx?rec=12647 * [32]https://www.itu.int/ITU-T/recommendations/rec.aspx?rec=1302 7 https://www.itu.int/ITU-T/recommendations/rec.aspx?rec=13027 * [33]https://www.itu.int/ITU-T/recommendations/rec.aspx?rec=1363 7 [33] https://www.itu.int/ITU-T/recommendations/rec.aspx?rec=13637 Updated schedule Sebastian: updated now with FPWD dates ... and also final publication targets ... or rather, deadlines McCool: I think each TF should fill in some intermediate targets, and we also could use some FPWD goals for TD2.0 and Arch2.0 TPAC F2F planning <inserted> [34]WoT TPAC wiki [34] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_October_2020 Sebastian: review of dates for F2F; resolution last meeting ... need to confirm dates for plugfest proposal: to hold online plugfest during the week of Sept 28-Oct 2, with one meeting daily (same format as last time) RESOLUTION: to hold online plugfest during the week of Sept 28-Oct 2, with one meeting daily (same format as last time) McCool: need to start organizing topics for F2F Kaz: please also document time for 9-10am ET for plugfest call ... also this is before daylight savings time change Sebastian: also are collecting joint meetings and topics for each McCool: wonder if MEIG and Publishing should be together, and media control can be discussed with MEIG ... regarding plugfest, VPN will be set up but will not be mandatory Cancellations Sebastian: see addition of marketing and PoC cancellations ... on main call wiki page <kaz> [35]meeting cancellations [35] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations Task force report - mainly Marketing <sebastian> [36]doodle ongoing [36] https://doodle.com/poll/kbrnwpxcukmhgexc Sebastian: selective, due to timing ... for marketing, note the doodle for the new time ... also, review the new web page <sebastian> [37]https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/ [37] https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/ <kaz> Note that the above new "WoT Welcome page" has links to the following related pages which are also to be reviewed: * [38]https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/wg/ https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/wg/ * [39]https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/ig/ https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/ig/ * [40]https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/cg/ https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/cg/ * [41]https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/developers/ [41] https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/developers/ Sebastian: please provide feedback ... right now we are discussing what the URL will be Lagally: want to understand how navigation to existing material, i.e. wikis ... does it replace existing pages? Sebastian: will replace two things; the [42]https://www.w3.org/WoT/ landing page ... currently undergoing redesign... ... and then [43]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG will be replaced (this one is under our direct control) [42] https://www.w3.org/WoT/ [43] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG <kaz> We can set up redirections for: [44]https://www.w3.org/WoT/WG/ => [45]https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/wg/ and: [46]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/ => [47]https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/ig/ However, at the moment we can't set up the redirection for: [48]https://www.w3.org/WoT/welcome => [49]https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/ and need to wait until the site redesign project is done. [44] https://www.w3.org/WoT/WG/ [45] https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/wg/ [46] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/ [47] https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/ig/ [48] https://www.w3.org/WoT/welcome [49] https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/ Lagally: one simple use case; someone want to join a WoT call, how do they find that information, without necessarily knowing about the IG/WG structure, etc. Sebastian: new page has a "Calls and Meetings" in an attempt to find this information easy to find ... should probably also put it in the main menu Daniel: this is definitely one of our goals ... this is just a starting point Lagally: suggest links to task forces at the top level McCool: I think what we want to do is emphasize the task forces; the ig/wg breakdown is basically just a technicality Daniel: ok, I will make a proposal and we can discuss next time Kaz: we should clarify what kind of information is needed for what kind of people, and create an issue ... personal suggestion is that it will be easier to maintain if static information is on the web page and dynamic information is in wiki page ... not really reuse, but how to split static/dynamic content ... for next step, need to think again about content is needed and with what emphasis and priority Sebastian: no-one is against this; what ml points out is that we should mention task forces in main pages Kaz: suggest that Lagally create an issue on the marketing repo and we discuss there; perhaps also mm Ege: good that we think of people who are NOT already in the W3C IG/WG ... and make sure we provide guidance to people so they know where to start <kaz> [adjourned] Summary of Action Items Summary of Resolutions 1. [50]to hold online plugfest during the week of Sept 28-Oct 2, with one meeting daily (same format as last time) [End of minutes] __________________________________________________________ Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by David Booth's [51]scribe.perl version ([52]CVS log) $Date: 2020/08/12 12:12:26 $ [51] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [52] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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