[TD-TF] minutes - 13 March 2020

available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2020/03/13-wot-td-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks,

Kazuyuki

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                             WoT-WG - TD-TF

13 Mar 2020

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz_Ashimura, Taki_Kamiya, Tomoaki_Mizushima,
          Ryuichi_Matsukura, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Daniel_Peintner,
          Michael_Lagally, Ege_Korkan

   Regrets

   Chair
          Taki, Sebastian

   Scribe
          kaz

Contents

     * [2]Topics
         1. [3]HTML for REC publication
         2. [4]Previous minutes
         3. [5]Virtual F2F
         4. [6]Virtual F2F (continued)
         5. [7]Binding
     * [8]Summary of Action Items
     * [9]Summary of Resolutions
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HTML for REC publication

   [10]diff version

     [10] https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description/publication/rec/diff.html

   Taki: (goes through the draft)

   Kaz: will fix the JS script for example 32
   ... regarding the yellow section at 8.1 saying:

   

   Some security protocols may ask for authentication information
   dynamically, including required encoding or encryption schemes.
   One consequence of the above is that if a protocol asks for a
   form of security credentials or an encoding or encryption
   scheme not declared in the Thing Description then the Thing
   Description is to be considered invalid.

   ]]

   Kaz: need to confirm with McCool this part is informative to
   make sure

   [11]Proposed REC version

     [11] https://www.w3.org/TR/2020/PR-wot-thing-description-20200130/#behavior-security

   [12]github.io version

     [12] https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description/#behavior-security

   Taki: other than that the draft looks good
   ... should we have an updated change log section?

   Kaz: would be great

   Taki: will do

   Kaz: tx!

   Taki: how about the JS code for example 32?

   Kaz: will fix it like we did for the Proposed REC

Previous minutes

   [13]Mar-6 minutes

     [13] https://www.w3.org/2020/03/06-wot-td-minutes.html

   Mizushima: no problem from me

   Taki: let's approve the minutes then

Virtual F2F

   [14]Virtual f2f agenda

     [14] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_16-19_March_2020,_Online

   Kaz: as I mentioned yesterday, I'll have 2 Team-internal calls
   on Thursday
   ... and suggesting to McCool/Sebastian that we have (1)
   node-wot tutorial at 4-6am PDT, noon-2pm CET, 8-10pm JST and
   (2) Marketing discussion at 7-8am PDT, 3-4pm CET, 11pm-midnight
   JST

   (Sebastian and Daniel join)

Virtual F2F (continued)

   Sebastian: we should look into several issues

   <sebastian>
   [15]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/302

     [15] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/302

   <sebastian>
   [16]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/878

     [16] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/878

   Sebastian: would be great to get feedback from Ben as well
   ... let's see his response

   [17]online f2f agenda

     [17] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_16-19_March_2020,_Online

   Sebastian: would have discussion on Architecture on Tuesday
   ... also OAuth2 discussion with Singapore guys
   ... to see what is missing
   ... need implementations for that as well
   ... will ask McCool to make an introduction for this topic
   ... next new topics from the updated Charter
   ... efficient formats for TD
   ... Taki and Daniel are expected to talk about that
   ... good timing to refresh the discussion
   ... Taki and Daniel, are you OK?

   Taki: need to talk with Daniel about how to do that
   ... but we should do that
   ... raised an issue about that

   Daniel: is it a new one?

   Taki: yes, just created a couple hours ago

   Daniel: will take a look that then

   <taki>
   [18]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/885

     [18] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/885

   Sebastian: and eventing
   ... not sure if we're really ready for this topic
   ... still a bit fuzzy for TD discussion
   ... need to have more concrete and specific proposals
   ... would like to make it clearer during the session
   ... maybe would be good to have Ben
   ... will prepare some slides
   ... but possibly will be postponed
   ... and then issues marked as maintenance/next version
   ... btw, is there any feedback about the topics/timing?

   Lagally: would identify possible building blocks based on the
   use cases

   Sebastian: more topics coming up based on the previous
   discussions
   ... we could be kind of ad-hoc

   Lagally: would encourage requirements to Thursday TD session

   (discussion on Thursday slots)

   architecture: 3am PDT, 6am EDT, 11am CET, noon EET, 7pm JST

   node-wot: 4-6am, PDT, 7-9am EDT, noon-2pm CET, 1-3pm EET,
   8-10pm JST

   marketing: 7am PDT, 10am EDT, 3pm CET, 4pm EET, 11pm JST

   Sebastian: another question is TD template
   ... Lagally, do you have any slides on the motivation, etc.?
   ... I myself have some which I shared 1-2 years ago

   Lagally: can create some input
   ... which will describe the requirements
   ... could you let me know about your resource?

   Sebastian: will do
   ... any other comments?

   (none)

   Sebastian: that's it for TD

Binding

   Sebastian: vocabulary for context files?
   ... Ege, can you take over the discussion?

   Ege: we should do this together with CoAP, IETF, OASIS, etc.

   Sebastian: definitely should be aligned with them
   ... Klaus is a good contact
   ... we should think about MQTT as well
   ... should contact somebody who is actively working on that
   ... any idea?

   Ege: not really
   ... maybe should ask Michael Koster?
   ... note that binding template doesn't require all the terms
   from various protocols
   ... e.g., HTTP vocabulary

   Sebastian: good point
   ... would be good to have ontology design separately from TD
   discussion

   Ege: right

   Sebastian: think we have to the initiative to work on the topic
   ... what I can suggest is talking with Klaus about CoAP
   ... regarding MQTT, we should find a contact person
   ... maybe a good idea to ask Koster for opinion

   <scribe> ACTION: sebastian to ask Klaus about CoAP and ask
   Koster about MQTT

   Sebastian: any other points for today?

   Ege: no

   Sebastian: that's all for today then
   ... next week, we'll have the online f2f, so please be aware of
   the schedule
   ... Kaz, you'll share the WebEx information. right?

   Kaz: yes

   Sebastian: let's enjoy our "virtual beer" after the meeting as
   well ;)

   <Mizushima> +1

   [adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: sebastian to ask Klaus about CoAP and ask Koster
   about MQTT

Summary of Resolutions

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