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[wot-ig/wg] minutes - 3 July 2019

From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 04:26:50 +0900
Message-ID: <CAJ8iq9V3iedeEvas_nXyWtDG=LQULzrKc9ro06XOz-dwhxj1eg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2019/07/03-wot-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking these minutes, Michael Lagally!

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

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                               WoT-IG/WG

03 Jul 2019

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#3_July_2019

Attendees

   Present
          Michael_Lagally, Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool,
          Taki_Kamiya, Dave_Raggett, Ege_Korkan,
          Ryuichi_Matsukura, Takahisa_Suzuki, Tetsushi_Matsuda,
          Sebastian_Kaebisch, Daniel_Peintner, Tomoaki_Mizushima

   Regrets
          Matthias

   Chair
          McCool

   Scribe
          mlagally

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Quick updates
         2. [5]Spec status
         3. [6]Schedule extension
         4. [7]Other publications: Binding Templates
         5. [8]Schedule
         6. [9]Workshop
         7. [10]TPAC demos
         8. [11]Proposed IG Charter
         9. [12]Next WG Charter
        10. [13]AOB
     * [14]Summary of Action Items
     * [15]Summary of Resolutions
     __________________________________________________________

   <scribe> scribenick: mlagally

Quick updates

   McCool: please register for TPAC
   ... and get hotel reserved
   ... other hotels are published at the website
   ... IOT World 2020 will be in San Diego

   Sebastian: TPAC - what are the meeting days?
   ... TPAC - what are the WoT meeting days?

   Kaz: Thursday+Friday

   McCool: Wednesday a demo slot

   <kaz> [16]TPAC 2019 schedule

     [16] https://www.w3.org/2019/09/TPAC/schedule.html

   McCool: Monday night is a developer meetup

   Lagally: More details on IOT Worlds 2020, please

   <kaz> [17]IoT World USA 2020

     [17] https://www.industryofthingsworldusa.com/

   McCool: trade show, with IIC presence, we could consider
   participating in a sub-booth
   ... There's a workshop on W3C data models for transportation in
   Palo Alto the week before TPAC
   ... deadline is July 8th, perhaps somebody local can
   participate and present?
   ... Taki, are you local and could you represent WoT?

   Taki: can discuss with my colleague

   McCool: Eric Siow could also attend, but would prefer an
   additional attendant
   ... taki, can you please take ownership?
   ... taki, can you please take ownership and coordinate?
   ... contact BMW and Eric

   Taki: yes

   Sebastian: there's email discussion on rockstar etc.
   ... suggest to create a master slide set

   McCool: this is not about rockstar, just presence at one
   workshop
   ... for this workshop you also may want a car use case

   Sebastian: It would be good to have a reference presentation

   Kaz: this is part of the proposed marketing initiative, and
   there is already some activity, e.g., the slides by McCool and
   Lagally

   McCool: Sebastian, can you look into IoT world please?

   Sebastian: this is a different conference - 2000$ for a pass
   ... we need a marketing plan
   ... let's discuss next week

Spec status

   McCool: no news

   Sebastian: security review at Siemens, some internal
   discussions wrt. id field
   ... perhaps not correct understanding of semantics of id field
   in PING

   McCool: In security call we read PING minutes - concern is
   about privacy sensitive information, such as id
   ... but we don't define access mechanism or protection
   mechanism
   ... our response to them should indicate that we define a
   description of a device. Next charter will contain directories,
   where privacy is essential
   ... it is currently out of scope of the spec
   ... we have recommendations on privacy

   Sebastian: we can look at what's out in the web, e.g. how web
   pages are protected

   McCool: they need to give us a pass to move forward
   ... TAG feedback on security and privacy definitions
   ... I have PRs to remove security and privacy definitions

   Lagally: I have a PR for Personally Identifiable Information,
   will discuss in tomorrows architecture call
   ... there are other things in the feedback we might consider

   Kaz: I'll send yet another reminder to TAG and PING

Schedule extension

   McCool: do we have an extension?

   Kaz: talked with PLH on Monday and the consensus with him was
   to propose 6 months instead of 3 months to be safe.

   McCool: I prefer not using the full 6 months, would like a PR
   transition proposal by end of July.

   Kaz: right. we don't have to wait until the end of the
   extension but can move ahead earlier.

   McCool: hope to get TAG feedback before vacation period. Let's
   wait until we hear back from W3M.

   Lagally: so at the moment we can safely assume we have 3
   months?

   McCool: yes

   Sebastian: for the moment we keep CR status?

   Kaz: yes

   McCool: we may have to republish the CR depending on TAG
   feedback - would prefer to avoid that

Other publications: Binding Templates

   McCool: Ege to be added as a co-Editor

   Sebastian: Koster is more involved in one DM activity, does not
   have too much time, asked for support
   ... asked for an additional active editor
   ... Ege is very familiar with the TD spec, ideal candidate

   <McCool> proposal: to add Ege Korkan as co-editor of the WoT
   Binding Templates document.

   RESOLUTION: To add Ege Korkan as co-editor of the WoT Binding
   Templates document.

Schedule

   McCool: current schedule is outdated, need to update in next
   chair's call
   ... we should make sure that other WG documents are updated and
   consistent

   <dape> DP: No scripting call this week (I got back from
   vacation and Zoltan is on vacation) --> no update

   McCool: Security guidelines should be published now, probably
   updated within a month

   scribenick: kaz:

   Kaz: all the Editors, please think about how long you would
   take to solve all the remaining issues. we can think about
   TAG/PING issues separately.

   scribenick: mlagally:

Workshop

   Kaz: I'm working on the minutes, should be done by next meeting

TPAC demos

   McCool: we need to figure out who is available and when

   Kaz: there's a table at the F2F wiki, please put your
   attendance and preferred time

   <kaz> [18]demo prep preference table

     [18] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_16-20_September_2019,_Fukuoka,_Japan#Demo_preparation_.2814-15_or_16-17_Sep_2019.29

   McCool: please complete the table for your company

   <kaz> (no plugfest call today; but we'll start the plugfest
   demo call next week)

Proposed IG Charter

   <kaz> [19]Proposed IG Charter

     [19] https://w3c.github.io/wot/charters/wot-ig-2019.html

   <kaz> [20]Alan's comments (member-only)

     [20] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-ig/2019Jul/0001.html

   McCool: discussions on how to handle Alan's comment, Dave could
   talk with Alan on Friday

   scribenick: kaz:

   Dave: will work with Kaz to wrap up this

   scribenick: mlagally:

Next WG Charter

   McCool: Next WG charter needs to be reviewed next week
   ... Joint Oracle + Smart Things proposals needs more
   discussion, propose to next week

   Sebastian: is Smart Things, Michael Koster's company?

   McCool: do you want to reach out to Mozilla first?

AOB

   Lagally: there is an arch call tomorrow
   ... please attend

   <kaz> [adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

    1. [21]To add Ege Korkan as co-editor of the WoT Binding
       Templates document.

   [End of minutes]
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