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[wot-ig/wg] minutes - 23 January 2019

From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 18:44:34 +0900
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To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2019/01/23-wot-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks,

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                               - DRAFT -

                               WoT-IG/WG

23 Jan 2019

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#23_Jan_2019

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Daniel_Peintner,
          Soumya_Kanti_Datta, Taki_Kamiya, Tomoaki_Mizushima,
          Zoltan_Kis, Kunihiko_Toumura, Matthias_Kovatsch,
          Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally, Tetsushi_Matsuda,
          Ryuichi_Matsukura, Yousuke_Nakamura, Kazuaki_Nimura,
          Sebastian_Kaebisch, Ege_Korkan

   Regrets

   Chair
          McCool, Matthias

   Scribe
          kaz

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]WoT workshop
         2. [5]f2f
         3. [6]f2f registration
         4. [7]Architecture
         5. [8]Scripting
         6. [9]TD
         7. [10]ITU liaison
         8. [11]Binding
         9. [12]Security
        10. [13]AOB?
     * [14]Summary of Action Items
     * [15]Summary of Resolutions
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   <McCool>
   [16]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#23_Jan_2019

     [16] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#23_Jan_2019

   <scribe> scribenick: kaz

WoT workshop

   Lagally: had a call one hour ago
   ... workshop cfp draft reformatted
   ... applied an appropriate css
   ... also talked about picture at the top
   ... and diagram of wot including several industries
   ... draft picture provided by Victor
   ... primarily discussion
   ... should be modified a bit
   ... to add cloud
   ... good starting point
   ... maybe a picture from the arch draft as well

   [17]draft cfp

     [17] https://w3c.github.io/wot/workshop/ws2/cfp.html

   Lagally: in addition, Sebastian gave some high-level agenda

   [18]draft schedule

     [18] https://w3c.github.io/wot/workshop/ws2/schedule.html

   Lagally: 27 May openday
   ... 28-29 workshop
   ... different companies to have demos on openday
   ... also invited keynote speakers
   ... from Siemens
   ... would check within Oracle as well

   McCool: would see keynote speakers

   Lagally: need to get official approval from W3M

   Kaz: working on that

   McCool: discussion during f2f?

   Lagally: yes

   McCool: any more quick updates?

   Lagally: none

f2f

   [19]f2f wiki

     [19] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_28_January-2_February_2019,_Princeton,_NJ,_USA

   McCool: goes through the wiki
   ... who to speak what?
   ... still reasonable to have only 30m for architecture?

   Lagally: a bit short in the end

   McCool: makes it 60m
   ... sebastian, what about TD?

   Sebastian: identify issues, etc.
   ... what to solve, etc.
   ... need consensus

   McCool: in that case, 120m minimum
   ... and
   ... TestFest stuff
   ... I can lead that
   ... relatively short
   ... 30m
   ... what would be features at risk?
   ... Elena for security testing results; 30m
   ... rechartering discussion
   ... 6month extension for WG and IG
   ... will lead this

   Kaz: talking with W3M about IG extension

   Matthias: please have the session on rechartering at some time
   I can easily join

   McCool: ok

   Lagally: note on sat
   ... some of the attendees might be going to leave earlier

   McCool: maybe all the items for sat can be by noon

   Lagally: would be good
   ... maybe we can start earlier?

   Koster: have hard stop at 3pm

   McCool: will add people's constraints here (on the agenda wiki)
   ... Elena, Zoltan, Daniel and Matthias
   ... CET; can attend up to 3pm
   ... want to finish by noon on sat
   ... Thursday
   ... rec track: arch (60m), td (120m), scripting (60m)
   ... notes: binding (60m), security/privacy (30m), security test
   (30m), security bp (20m)

   Sebastian: we should spend some time for binding as well - td
   for 240m

   McCool: add "organization" at the beginning of thu

   Lagally: arch for 120m

   McCool: openday
   ... speakers from NIST and OGC

   Sebastian: we'll have testfest in the morning
   ... how long would it take
   ... also lunch time

   McCool: starting at 1:30pm then?

   Sebastian: would be careful about changing the time now

f2f registration

   [20]registration results

     [20] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTF2F201901/results

   McCool: goes through the registration results

   Kaz: George Percivall from OGC as an invited speaker
   ... and 2 guys from Toshiba are observers

   McCool: ok
   ... and approved

Architecture

   Lagally: had a call today
   ... a couple of proposals for the doc
   ... created a word doc based on the changes for review
   ... one from Toumura-san
   ... Kawaguchi-san
   ... and Matsukura-san
   ... editorial changes from Ari
   ... also security proposal from Elena
   ... extended deadline by Friday
   ... any proposals welcome for the f2f discussion

   <mlagally_>
   [21]https://github.com/mlagally/wot-architecture/blob/master/pr
   oposals/diff%20with%20all-PRs.docx

     [21] https://github.com/mlagally/wot-architecture/blob/master/proposals/diff
with all-PRs.docx

   Lagally: feel free to take a look at the above integrated
   change doc
   ... will work on the branch to merge the changes
   ... also will merge Oracle proposal

   McCool: ok

   Lagally: and we want to use the first 30m from the TD call for
   the final review before f2f

Scripting

   McCool: discussion about browser or not

   [22]issue 158

     [22] https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/158

   [23]zoltan's question (member-only)

     [23] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2019Jan/0014.html

   Zoltan: node-only description is not good for browser
   implementation
   ... would like input from people
   ... first from the group
   ... expectation from the scripting spec
   ... the way forward would be making it a group Note
   ... can be an NPM document maybe
   ... however, we could make changes to make the spec draft
   better fit browsers
   ... generated some presentation slides (URL within the above
   message)
   ... is there an opensource implementation?
   ... we have a number of participants in the group
   ... would ask for opinions

   McCool: how to proceed?
   ... can generate some formal questionnaire?
   ... main question and subsidiary question
   ... today or tomorrow

   Zoltan: people are implementing WoT
   ... would like to know what kind of scripting mechanism people
   are using

   Kaz: I can create a WBS questionnaire if the questions are
   clear

   Zoltan: can send questions and options

   Kaz: also we can talk with W3C Management guys like Philippe

TD

   Sebastian: did some changes for TD model
   ... default value, etc.
   ... major changes from last week
   ... how to set up tests?
   ... Ege may have insight
   ... set up some configuration for next week

   McCool: testing details for the next hour
   ... bunch of issues on duplicated IDs

   Ege: people can check things manually
   ... and automatic tool also can be updated

   McCool: talk about the details during the test call later
   ... data schema for payload, etc., to be reviewed
   ... one question, extended assertion section for the TD draft
   ... discussion at f2f
   ... did data schema assertions as well
   ... Koster might want to look into protocol topics
   ... anything else?

   (none)

ITU liaison

   McCool: got a liaison letter
   ... need to look at that
   ... people are also welcome to review it
   ... review during f2f as well

Binding

   McCool: any update?

   Koster: no

   McCool: some discussion on one data model on Sat

   Koster: that's fine

Security

   McCool: not much report
   ... other than test plan by Elena
   ... first look during the f2f next week
   ... testing plan deliverable as a separate note
   ... document testing procedure and appropriate tools
   ... we need actual implementation

AOB?

   McCool: anything?

   (none)

   [adjourned; convene in 10mins]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

   [End of minutes]
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