[wot-ig/wg] minutes - 14 July 2021

available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-wot-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Lagally!

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] https://www.w3.org/

                               WoT-IG/WG

14 July 2021

   [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#14_July_2021
      [3] https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-wot-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kaz_Ashimura,
          Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally,
          Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tetsushi_Matsuda,
          Tomoaki_Mizushima

   Regrets
          -

   Chair
          McCool/Sebastian

   Scribe
          kaz, mlagally

Contents

    1. [4]Minutes
    2. [5]vF2F minutes
    3. [6]IG Rechartering
    4. [7]Smart Cities Workshop
    5. [8]Testing
    6. [9]Publication Planning
    7. [10]Liaisons
         1. [11]ITU-T SG20
         2. [12]ECHONET
         3. [13]ECLASS and ISO TC184/SC4
         4. [14]the Other Liaisons
    8. [15]TF reports

Meeting minutes

   McCool: <Agenda walkthrough>

   <kaz> [16]Agenda

     [16] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#14_July_2021

  Minutes

   McCool: let's review last meeting minutes:

   <kaz> [17]July-7

     [17] https://www.w3.org/2021/07/07-wot-minutes.html

   McCool: discussion about implementations ...
   … ITU-T: there are two workshops: a proposed joint workshop and
   an ITU-T hosted WS
   … can we publish?

   - no objections
   … kaz, please add a note to the ITU-T workshop plans to avoid
   confusion

  vF2F minutes

   McCool: some TFs have reviewed their parts, I hope TD can be
   reviewed today, use cases and architecture + profiles tomorrow
   … we had 5 external presenters, time was a bit short
   … some of the slides were provided, can we please add links to
   them to the minutes?
   … Open day minutes were reviewed - no change required
   … Day 1: charter discussion etc.
   … Note: we cannot do a new WG charter right now, but only close
   towards the end of the current charter

   McCool: Minutes for Day1 and Day 4 were reviewed and approved,
   others will be reviewed by TFs

  IG Rechartering

   IG rechartering:

   <McCool> [18]https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/966

     [18] https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/966

   McCool: if you have comments, please add them to the issue

  Smart Cities Workshop

   mmc workshop has happened, Kaz created a draft report

   Kaz: workshop went very well, 3 sessions, we identified
   important stakeholders, govt. agencies, committees, ...
   … we updated the smart cities IG charter and will bring to W3M,
   the notes are under review by the program committee of the
   workshop

   McCool: recordings and slides are available, some will still be
   uploaded

  Testing

   McCool: We need to get our testing organised, let's talk about
   it in the testing call.
   … we should also have testing calls in the upcoming weeks.
   October plugfest will be testing plug fest, no new experimental
   features before testing is done.

  Publication Planning

   McCool: we have updates in editors drafts, including discovery
   - need to do a resolution next week
   … editors drafts are available for reviews
   … other plans?

   Daniel: Scripting will take some more months

   McCool: we have a couple of MRs in place for security best
   practices - they can wait a bit
   … any planned updates for the TD spec?

   Sebastian: will discuss in today's TD call, some new findings
   from F2F and issues - ideally before the summer break but not
   sure.

   McCool: I have created some PRs for architecture, hope to get
   them merged tomorrow
   … terminology about hubs and gateway fixes has some
   implications, hope to get them in tomorrow

  Liaisons

    ITU-T SG20

   McCool: ITU-T got back to us, potentially need to discuss with
   W3M if they want to have an official joint workshop between
   ITU-T and W3C, there was a bit of confusion about two
   workshops, Kaz will sort it out

    ECHONET

   <Ege> [19]https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/85 please
   check this

     [19] https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/85

   McCool: Echonet: need clarification on concrete binding - try
   to do it and identify technical issues

   Kaz: expectation of Echonet/Matsuda-san is to start with the
   examples that were provided in the slides

   McCool: if there's a binding for Echonet, it could be reviewed,
   but an example is not a spec

   Ege: In part of the restructuring of the binding specification
   I'm proposing an Echonet binding. that Matsuda-san is also an
   author

   Kaz: We could start with the example

   Lagally: we may be missing important parts of the spec that are
   not in the example

   Matsuda-san: Please start with the example, I personally would
   like to write a TD to allow W3C WoT to access Echonet server
   … you can access the URL with the binding template spec, but
   personally I think you cannot specify the data format
   … if a client reads a property the HTTP return body is
   different
   … key + value pair is returned as a JSON object, format is
   different

   Lagally: please let's discuss in tomorrow's
   architecture+profile session

   Kaz: I suggest we start with the interface discussion
   … we should start the official technical discussion with the
   Echonet steering committee - I will send it

    ECLASS and ISO TC184/SC4

   McCool: ECLASS and ISO - we look for extension ontologies for
   both cases
   … I think we have some specification gaps, how to get
   ontologies, ...
   … next step for ECLASS to write up some use cases

   Sebastian: CDD is a different approach than ECLASS, we also
   need to clarify what is meant with "ontology"
   … commonalities [between ECLASS and ISO] are IEC61360

   McCool: if there's common ground, we should share same base
   ontologies

   Kaz: we should handle both organisations in parallel to
   identify what and how to refer to their ontologies.

   McCool: these guys are experts - why don't we start with
   ECLASS, if we hit another ontology we may be able to adapt

    the Other Liaisons

   Sebastian: OPC-UA - will be discussed in next UC call.

   McCool: DTDL will be difficult

  TF reports

   Daniel: Scripting: working on finalizing some topic around
   discovery. We decided for scripting that the review of minutes
   is happening outside of the call.

   McCool: others could follow that model
   … tooling: perhaps we could do minutes in github
   … Security / Best practices - Some PRs and cleanup are going
   on, specifically wrt. OAuth. This should be removed from the UC
   document, will clean it up in the best practices document.

   Sebastian: Marketing: content updates for the web page - news
   on twitter to share info about vF2F
   … some discussions about visitor counters, identify room for
   improvements
   … create a youtube channel with WoT based videos
   … Ege plans to hire a student to create tutorials

   <kaz> [ Please note I gave a comment on that during the
   Marketing call. ]

   Lagally: Use Cases
   … had discussion on ECLASS
   … expecting further collaboration on how to use their data
   definition from TD based on some concrete use case

   [adjourned]


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