Re: [wot-marketing] minutes - 9 March 2021

available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2021/03/09-wot-marketing-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks,

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] https://www.w3.org/

                             WoT Marketing

09 March 2021

   [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Marketing_WebConf#Feb_23.2C_2021
      [3] https://www.w3.org/2021/03/09-wot-marketing-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Coralie_Mercier, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner,
          Jack_Dickinson, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura,
          Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Philipp_Blum,
          Xiaoqian_Wu, Junde_Yhi

   Regrets
          -

   Chair
          Sebastian

   Scribe
          kaz

Contents

    1. [4]Guests
    2. [5]prev minutes
    3. [6]Basic marketing policies for publication
    4. [7]PR 134
    5. [8]Multiple language support of the video + alternative
       publication platform
    6. [9]Summary of resolutions

Meeting minutes

  Guests

   Sebastian: Junde Yhi, who volunteered to work on the Chinese
   captions

   Xiaoqian: Xiaoqian Wu, W3C Beihang site manager

  prev minutes

   [10]Mar-2

     [10] https://www.w3.org/2021/03/02-wot-marketing-minutes.html

   Sebastian: (goes through the minutes)
   … new WoT welcome page and the explainer video published
   … working on blob post
   … PR 134 on TFs
   … we'll look into the detail today
   … any objections?

   (none)

   approved

  Basic marketing policies for publication

   Sebastian: our policy to publish information publicly like the
   WoT Welcome page
   … several options
   … Marketing TF to entitled to make updates
   … or getting back to the main call
   … is clear Resolution needed every time?
   … we need a good guideline here

   Lagally: outbound messaging is always sensitive
   … Marketing TF is a subgroup of the WoT IG
   … so it would be dangerous in case the intention of the whole
   group were not reflected
   … we've been careful to handle our meeting minutes as well
   … thorough review before publishing them

   Sebastian: ok
   … how should we improve the procedure then?
   … for example, we've been mentioning the Marketing TF's plan
   during the main calls
   … should we record our decision using "RESOLUTION" as well?

   Lagally: for significant things, we should do so
   … there could be some "border" cases, though
   … specifically, if we make a completely new change, we need to
   record it clearly

   Sebastian: maybe there was some confusion

   McCool: would agree we should have made a resolution for the
   big release like the one we made the other day
   … but would also suggest we ask people to review the content
   within some specific review period, e.g., 1 week

   Philipp: also mentioned that W3C is a bit slow about marketing
   … can be problematic to output marketing for the standards
   … so would like to agree with McCool
   … one week review period would be OK, even though it isn't
   ideal to move forward fast.

   Daniel: agree
   … 1 week might be too long but OK

   Daniel: note that if there is any problem, we should/can
   improve it
   … don't have to be perfect

   Lagally: tx for your hard work first
   … one week review period proposed by McCool is fine

   Kaz: we're getting a conclusion while I've been waiting :)

   McCool: another question is how to handle the PR and branch to
   merge
   … also how to run the review

   Sebastian: it's a generic question

   McCool: what is the current process?

   Sebastian: the PR is merged to the "master" branch and it will
   be applied directly

   McCool: not merge PR until the review is done

   McCool: we can decide which is major and which is minor
   … we should be conservative to manage the repo
   … nice to have a preview, though

   Daniel: can look into it

   Cristiano: this is a right way
   … but we have great features to review the PR
   … every PR should be open until the review is done

   Kaz: to see previews, we might want to have several sub repos
   … and copy the contents from those sub repos to the main
   wot-marketing repo after the content was approved

   McCool: Marketing TF can categorize the PRs into major and
   minor
   … and major ones need detailed review

   Lagally: +1

   Sebastian: we'll use two labels, "major" and "minor"
   … major requires one week review and resolution at the main
   call
   … minor requires one-day review

   Cristiano: possibly up to 2 weeks?

   McCool: yeah
   … possible one week delay

   Lagally: editorial fixes like typo can be handled quickly

   McCool: so we should use three levels, editorial, minor and
   major
   … editorial means typos, etc.

   <cris> +1

   McCool: another question is twitter, etc.
   … would propose 3-day review

   Philipp: if we need to get approval, the good timing would be
   gone
   … I think Twitter retweets etc. should be handled by some
   people trusted by the group. They should have some restrictions
   on that, of course.

   <cris> +1

   McCool: yeah, one week should be too long for that
   … one day review for twitter
   … one week review for Web pages

   Sebastian: (add those proposed three labels on the agenda wiki)

   McCool: "editorial changes" to be used bug fixes

   Sebastian: is that ok?

   Lagally: should call it "bug fix"

   McCool: and twitter news for one day announcement in the
   mailinglist

   Lagally: which list?

   Kaz: Marketing work belongs to the IG, so should go to the IG
   list, but can be CCed to the WG list

   McCool: ok

   Sebastian: (record it on the agenda)

   

   major changes: PRs (e.g., new page content or new web pages,
   Blog Post) needs 1 week preview time of the WoT group (will be
   announced in the main call)

   minor changes: PRs (e.g., small extension) will be also
   announced latest one day before the main call

   bug fixes: PRs (e.g., typos, links update) can be merged
   directly

   twitter news: one day announcement in the mailing list (wot-ig
   & wot-wg)

   we will introduce three labels minor / major / editorial

   ]]

   Resolution: we'll use the above as our policy from now on

  PR 134

   [11]PR 134 - Webpage: Adding TF info to WG and IG overview
   pages

     [11] https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/134

   Lagally: the table is not really great, though :)

   Sebastian: can be improved later

   McCool: is this a major change? or minor

   Sebastian: should be minor

   McCool: ok

   <cris> +1 for minor

   McCool: we should fix the table style before merging

   McCool: can we fix it before the main call tomorrow?

   Lagally: will try

   <cris> +1 for labels

   Daniel: wondering whether to use, "Task Force" or "Taskforce"

   McCool: we use "TF" as the acronym, so should use "Task Force"
   … let's put a label

  Multiple language support of the video + alternative publication
  platform

   Sebastian: two topics here

   [12]issue 141 - Multiple language support for the animation
   video

     [12] https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/141

   Sebastian: Junde Yhi has volunteered to work on the Chinese
   captions

   Junde: very interested in this

   Sebastian: tx!

   McCool: fantastic
   … should we look for another caption for traditional Chinese?
   … also Junde, can you work with the GitHub repo?

   Junde: think so

   Kaz: if needed, you can send it by email to me and I can
   install it for you

   Sebastian: we have Italian captions as well

   Xiaoqian: happy to have Chinese captions as well
   … regarding the traditional captions, we have contacts in
   Taiwan

   <sebastian> [13]https://www.w3.org/2021/02/
   wot-explainer-video.html

     [13] https://www.w3.org/2021/02/wot-explainer-video.html

   <mlagally> I will drop off for the use cases call

   Kaz: regarding the video server, we've already installed the
   explainer video on the W3C side as above

   <koalie> [I need to go to my next meeting too :/]

   <koalie> [Coralie departs]

   Xiaoqian: these days bilibili is more popular for younger
   people in China

   Sebastian: unfortunately, we need to continue the discussion
   next time...
   … please join the next call

   Xiaoqian: ok

   [adjourned]

Summary of resolutions

    1. [14]we'll use the above as our policy from now on


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