- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 07:00:49 +0900
- To: public-wot-ig@w3.org, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2021/02/23-wot-marketing-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Michael McCool!
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
[1] https://www.w3.org/
WoT Marketing
23 February 2021
[2]IRC log.
[2] https://www.w3.org/2021/02/23-wot-marketing-irc
Attendees
Present
Coralie_Mercier, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner,
Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool,
Philipp_Blum, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
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Chair
Sebastian
Scribe
McCool
Contents
1. [3]minutes
2. [4]project on github for IoT projects
3. [5]update document page with links
4. [6]WoT Video Page
5. [7]how to handle the WoT-JP CG
6. [8]new WoT page needs to be upward-compatible
minutes
[9]https://www.w3.org/2021/02/16-wot-marketing-minutes.html
[9] https://www.w3.org/2021/02/16-wot-marketing-minutes.html
coralie, yes, we would like to discuss some things
<koalie> ok
Kaz: animation video captioning in the agenda?
Sebastian: yes, one of the issues
<kaz> [10]Feb-16
[10] https://www.w3.org/2021/02/16-wot-marketing-minutes.html
Sebastian: animation, captions, hosting of video, pr about
video thumbnail, documentation page updates, action to look at
all issues related to web pages (will cover today)
Sebastian: any objections to publish?
… no, to be published
project on github for IoT projects
Sebastian: interesting project, high ranked, would be good to
list WoT
… daniel to provide a PR; just a link, but which URI should be
use?
… should we wait for the new web site?
Sebastian: probably we should wait
<sebastian> [11]URL for the WoT Welcome page (currently used
for the WoT Landing page)
[11] https://www.w3.org/WoT/
Sebastian: this will be the new main web page, end of this
week, most likely
<koalie> [12]https://validator.w3.org/checklink?url=https://
www.w3.org/WoT/
[12] https://validator.w3.org/checklink?url=https://www.w3.org/WoT/
also, is there a tool to check web pages?
Kaz: yes, there is a tool, link checker
Daniel: do you want to check that
<koalie> [13]W3C Link Checker
[13] https://validator.w3.org/checklink
<kaz> kaz: please go ahead and check it :)
<koalie> [also the ",checklink" suffix on any w3.org URL that
is public, is a useful tool]
after fixing the english, will merge the PR directly and send
daniel an email so he can do the HTML check
Kaz: also ran the spell checker and fixed some typos in the
captions
Sebastian: but there is still the question about where to host
the video?
Kaz: don't think that is an open question, should be on W3C
McCool: my question was not about hosting, but where to archive
it
<koalie> I believe it's stored. Unless you plug a player in
which case that depends on the player.
McCool: does the W3C video server
… downscale?
koalie: no extra compression when the video is archived in W3C
site
… but if we plug in a player, ie. YouTube, then there may be
some additional conversion for that, but my preference is that
it be played ONLY from youtube
Kaz: question is whether we need to have a backup video on W3C
side or not
McCool: uploading to YouTube is not good for archival, since
reencodes, so just need a place to store the original
Kaz: I thought I asked you to mention our requests directly on
the email thread with Dom ad Coralie, but I'll proceed with the
discussion.
koalie: not a problem to do the archive, but note that it will
be *playable* only from YouTube
Sebastian: kaz, I can't do the upload, you need to
Kaz: also need to check that the captions are ok
McCool: can you share a link to the captions?
<kaz> [14]modified caption VTT file
[14] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-ig/2021Feb/att-0005/WOTMotion.vtt
McCool: let's rename this to include the language, put in
github (wot-marketing) somewhere, clean up the english version,
then ask for volunteers to do translations
<citrullin> @cris [15]https://support.google.com/youtube/
answer/2734698?hl=en#zippy= Youtube supports a lot of formats
[15] https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2734698?hl=en#zippy=
McCool: and I think we have native speakers for German,
Italian, French, and Japanese, at least
… let's use github to manage the captions and translations;
can't store video file, but captions are just a text file
<cris> @citrullin cool so vtt is supported
Sebastian: I can't find the email thread with dom
<koalie> [note: Dom is off this week, as stated before. He may
be called, he said. He'll be back at work on March 1]
Kaz: ok, let me find it and make sure are on it and resend
<citrullin> @cris yes, not the prefered format, but it is
supported. If it doesn't work properly, we can still deal with
it.
McCool: let's just get everything ready and Dom can hopefully
quickly do the launch setup on Monday
update document page with links
McCool: I think we should update the explainer as well; let's
create an issue about it
… also instead of linking directly to videos, tutorials, etc.
from that page, let's link to other pages which organize each
class of material
… to avoid redundancy
<sebastian> [16]https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/126
[16] https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/126
Daniel: is also an outstanding PR to add a video subpage
Sebastian: only small comment about video page
McCool: I can change "Links" to "Further Reading" when I do my
fix-up pass
<kaz> [17]PR 122 - Pr 120 followup
[17] https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/122
Sebastian: ok, then in the meantime will merge PR
WoT Video Page
Sebastian: would like area (page) that collect all the videos
and organize them
… and daniel you also provided a PR for this?
… created just a subpage, but probably need to track down some
additional videos
… e.g. the one by Jeff Jaffe, Lemonbeat, workshop by Siemens,
etc.
McCool: coralie, are we ok with embedding videos directly in
pages? Any privacy issues?
Philipp: problem with embedding is that resources from twitter,
etc. are loaded when the page is loaded?
<cris> +1
Daniel: easy to just put in a thumbnail, and have it open a new
page when clicked
Philipp: forcing the user to load third-party code is the
problem, i.e. direct embedding
… so just visiting the page means sending info to twitter,
youtube, etc. just by visiting the page
Daniel: video thumbnails are easy, but for twitter not so easy;
can add link to visit twitter
McCool: suggest that for now we just use a link, and take out
the news feed embedding; later we can figure out a way to
scrape twitter to get the latest news without forcing loading
of twitter resources
Sebastian: ok, well, let's merge the current PR, then create an
issue to cleanup the twitter embedding
… for now the twitter cleanup can just be a link
Daniel: will cleanup by doing a screenshot for now
… that way the layout does not get messed up
how to handle the WoT-JP CG
Sebastian: I thought there was a PR for this, but it seems is
not the case
… kaz, don't have anything from your side
… but assume we will put it on the "Community Group" page
McCool: kaz, will you do a PR to add content to this page?
Kaz: yes, working with Toumura-san, Mizushima-san
McCool: can be very simple, just a short description and a link
… and put a section at the bottom of the current page, rather
than another page
new WoT page needs to be upward-compatible
Daniel: missing testing info right now
Sebastian: kaz you check the current status and see if it's ok
… we also don't have to be complete at launch; we can add extra
material later
Kaz: my point also; let's just create a checklist
McCool: for launch, let's let Dom get it up, then we can
announce it
koalie: will also need a signal when you are ready
Sebastian: ok, will aim for that this Friday
Daniel: might be tricky to do this Friday
McCool: I would be ok with a short meeting on Friday to do a
final check and make the decision to launch
adjourn
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