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[PlugFest/Testing] minutes - 3 June 2020

From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 20:41:21 +0900
Message-ID: <87mu54r1y6.wl-ashimura@w3.org>
To: public-wot-ig@w3.org, public-wot-wg@w3.org
availabe at:
  https://www.w3.org/2020/06/03-wot-pf-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Ege!

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

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                            PlugFest/Testing

03 Jun 2020

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agenda

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz_Ashimura, Ari_Keranen, Carsten_Bormann,
          Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Klaus_Hartoke,
          Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool, Ryuichi_Matsukura,
          Sebastian_Kaebisch, Zoltan_Kis, Tomoaki_Mizushima

   Regrets

   Chair
          McCool

   Scribe
          Ege_

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Prev minute
         2. [5]Guests
         3. [6]T2TRG workshop
         4. [7]PlugFest planning
     * [8]Summary of Action Items
     * [9]Summary of Resolutions
     __________________________________________________________

   <kaz> scribenick: Ege_

Prev minute

   <kaz> [10]May-27

     [10] https://www.w3.org/2020/05/27-wot-pf-minutes.html

   <kaz> McCool: typo with "back o" for "back to"

   McCool: any objections?

   (no objections, and the minutes are approved)

Guests

   McCool: since ari and carsten are here, we want to finalize the
   discussions on the t2t workshop

   <kaz> (Carsten is a guest today)

   <kaz> aware of the patent policy:
   [11]https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20170801/

     [11] https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20170801/

T2TRG workshop

   <akeranen>
   [12]https://github.com/t2trg/2020-06-helsinki#approximate-agend
   a

     [12] https://github.com/t2trg/2020-06-helsinki#approximate-agenda

   McCool: (shows the agenda for the workshop)

   Ari: We have discussing about the templates in the wishi calls
   and also the hypermedia controls

   McCool: I will check with ml whether this is OK
   ... Will you check with them if they can present

   Sebastian: yes, I cannot be present but I will check with them
   so that they can present
   ... ege is also writing a proposal

   (missed the question of ari)

   McCool: We should look into how people design RESTful APIs with
   hypermedia
   ... mozilla gave input on this

   Ari: write an email for more input

   Carsten: So ege will be present too?

   Ege: so we have two proposals, one from and one from me

   <kaz> [13]RESTful Designs for IoT Systems

     [13] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-t2trg-rest-iot/

   Carsten: So will it be a shootout?

   Ege: we will see this friday I think

   Sebastian: So the RESTful design is a new document?

   Carsten: not really

   McCool: I think that 30 mins is too short for this discussion
   to really happen

   Ari: maaybe we can present hypermedia approaches we have
   learned from other groups

   scribenick: kaz

   Kaz: so we WoT WG should look at the IRTF's RESTful Designs
   document a bit more, and so summarize our own ideas to generate
   several slides for the 30-min discussion during the workshop on
   June 8, and then have detailed discussion during the f2f on
   June 26

   (Sebastian leaves)

   [14]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/tree/master/pr
   oposals/hypermedia-control

     [14] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/tree/master/proposals/hypermedia-control

   (Zoltan leaves)

   [15]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/907

     [15] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/907

   Ege: there are 2 proposals, one by myself and another by Victor
   ... the main difference is one focuses on TD updates

   [16]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/899

     [16] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/899

   McCool: we can add those resources to the workshop agenda page

   Ari: sounds good

   [17]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/302

     [17] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/302

   Ari: I also put the URL for the section on hypermedia-driven
   app

   <kaz> [18]5. Hypermedia-driven Applications (from the RESTful
   design doc)

     [18] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-t2trg-rest-iot-05#section-5

   scribenick: Ege_

   Ari: we can take it offline, the three of us

   McCool: sure
   ... anything more on logistics?

   <kaz> [19]old t2t registration site

     [19] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/wot-t2trg-workshop-202006/results

   Kaz: registration site for t2t workshop, where is it?

   Ari: GDocs is on the Readme

   <kaz> [20]official IRTF registration site

     [20] https://forms.gle/R33E7J3qM6nYLfQD8

   McCool: I will do some cleanup and confer by email for the
   logistics

   <kaz> (Carsten, Ari and Klaus leave)

PlugFest planning

   McCool: merges PR nb 5
   ... from Farshid

   <kaz> [21]PR 5

     [21] https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/5

   McCool: Do you have any updates on the VPN?

   Matsukura: I am checking with Toumura san

   McCool: We need to get access to the AWS instance. Do you have
   access?

   Matsukura: no

   McCool: that needs to happen

   Kaz: I sent you an email 2 hours ago, we need some information
   like public key, IP addresses etc.

   McCool: Then I let matsukura-san to do configuration of the VPN
   ... We also need to figure out how to do a bridge
   ... We need to have the instructinos ready by next week

   <McCool>
   [22]https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/blob/master/events/2020.
   06.Online/tools/vpn.md

     [22] https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/blob/master/events/2020.06.Online/tools/vpn.md

   McCool: the instructions should go to this link pasted above
   ... please put your TDs

   <inserted> Kaz: as I already mentioned last week, people are
   encouraged to put their resources/TDs used for TPAC 2019 to
   wot-teting/events/2020.06.Online/TDs if they're ok with reusing
   them

   McCool: Just go ahead and create PRs, I will just merge if it
   simply doesn't overwrite anything
   ... I need to move the junk from wiki to here
   ... should I create md files for scenarios

   Daniel: From our side, we want to test hypermedia stuff

   McCool: LinkSmart directory is already running

   Kaz: It would be good if you can generate a diagram for the
   setups (VPN, Directory, etc.)

   <McCool>
   [23]https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/blob/master/events/2020.
   06.Online/prototypes/hypermedia.md

     [23] https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/blob/master/events/2020.06.Online/prototypes/hypermedia.md

   McCool: We should add the TDs and description of the
   implementation
   ... We should close the call for now
   ... so please add information

   <kaz> [adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

   [End of minutes]
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