[wot-ig/wg] minutes - 2 October 2019

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  https://www.w3.org/2019/10/02-wot-minutes.html

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Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Daniel!

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

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                               WoT-IG/WG

02 Oct 2019

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#2_Oct_2019

Attendees

   Present
          Ben_Francis, Daniel_Peintner, Dave_Raggett,
          Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool,
          Takahisa_Suzuki, Taki_Kamiya, Tetsushi_Matsuda,
          Tomoaki_Mizushima, Ryuichi_Matsukura

   Regrets
          Sebastian, Victor

   Chair
          McCool

   Scribe
          dape

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Quick updates
         2. [5]Web Things CG Charter (Ben)
         3. [6]TF reports
             [7]Marketing [8]Scripting API [9]Thing Description
         4. [10]AOB?
     * [11]Summary of Action Items
     * [12]Summary of Resolutions
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   <kaz> scribenick: dape

Quick updates

   McCool: Singapore logistics

   <kaz> [13]Singapore f2f wiki

     [13]
https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_13-17_November_2019,_Singapore

   McCool: 13-17 November
   ... aligned with IETF
   ... Intel agreed to fund
   ... clarification: 3 days
   ... our PlugFest at IETF Hackathon
   ... besides our "usual" things we propose IETF related topics
   (orchesration, CoAP protocol bindings, ...)
   ... location: university of Singapore
   ... hour by bus from down-town
   ... please raise any objections soon.. need to confirm soon
   ... need accurate count 1 week before (Kaz will setup
   registration site)
   ... November 13-14 our F2F
   ... November 15 joint meeting
   ... please add proposed items under "Input" section (e.g., for
   Agenda)
   ... Who plans to organize PlugFest?
   ... if no-one else is available I can do that...
   ... IG Charter review
   ... need 20 AC rep votes
   ... so far we have 9, need 11 more
   ... No privacy meeting yet
   ... Marketing task for had meeting this week
   ... patch current content
   ... marcom conflict
   ... need new time slot
   ... next week marketing call still on Monday.. will decide
   there when and if to change

   Taki: doodle poll for marketing time slot?

   McCool: will send email whether charter call works. If so we
   are done. If not we need to find another solution

   Taki: 4am in California.. not very convenient

   McCool: OK, let's do a doodle

   Kaz: Thursday, or also Monday?

   McCool: both

   Kaz: will include Friday also

Web Things CG Charter (Ben)

   Ben: core mission
   ... websocket sub protocol of TD
   ... idea is to complement TD specification
   ... secondary delivery: HTTP protocol binding
   ... depends on WG

   McCool: we have group working on bindings

   Ben: protocol on top of a protocol
   ... simply reference external document

   McCool: normative specification referencing the document
   ... normative definition to "how to use e.g., HTTP for devices"

   Ben: wording might need to be more clear

   McCool: "subprotocol" might be a good term.. vs. protocol

   Ben: subprotocol seems to be a good term
   ... proposed CG, met minimum votes
   ... hence, group has started...
   ... no activity yet

   McCool: mentioning "specification" at the deliverlables section
   would be confusing. can CGs produce specifications? maybe
   "draft specifications"?

   Kaz: CGs produce "CG Reports"

   Ben: CG can create specifications... even though not normative

   Kaz: technically that is correct
   ... but "draft specifications" sounds like a good term as
   McCool mentioned if Ben is OK with that

   McCool: we can add pointers to our charter?

   Ben: websocket is more natural to IETF
   ... HTTP is more related W3C....
   ... not sure where the work will end up

   McCool: timing?

   Ben: charter does not have end date
   ... asynchronous collaboration
   ... no weekly calls or so
   ... depends on the interest we get

   McCool: can you come to Singapore?

   Ben: need to check

   McCool: Next F2F in Europe (after Singapore)?
   ... draft for this next next F2F would be good
   ... github issues?

   Ben: Personal repo or w3c repo?

   Kaz: I think I can help with w3c repo

   McCool: need to clarify relationship
   ... "Web of Things" is overloaded term

   <McCool_> [14]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf

     [14] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf

   <McCool_>
   [15]https://github.com/benfrancis/web-thing-protocol-charter/is
   sues

     [15] https://github.com/benfrancis/web-thing-protocol-charter/issues

   Ben: will send use-cases and such to mailing list
   ... please register

   <benfrancis> For reference, here is a link to the active
   community group page
   [16]https://www.w3.org/community/web-thing-protocol/

     [16] https://www.w3.org/community/web-thing-protocol/

   <benfrancis> with links to the mailing list etc.

TF reports

* Marketing

   McCool/Dave: blog post
   ... will send out draft first
   ... need backup material

   McCool: plan to include figures in blog

   Dave: should be short and we link to additional material

   <kaz> [17]Marketing TF wiki

     [17] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Marketing_WebConf

   <kaz> [18]Marketing TF repo

     [18] https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing

   Kaz: sent out the minutes from the marketing call
   ... also created wiki and GitHub repo
   ... fyi, I've generated brief summary from the TPAC f2f in
   Japanese for JP Members, and can translate it into English as
   possible resource for the blog post

   <Zakim> dape, you wanted to mention your web site draft

   [19]https://danielpeintner.github.io/wot-pages/

     [19] https://danielpeintner.github.io/wot-pages/

   Daniel: sketch of website above
   ... clean-up of pages

   McCool: need agreement of Marcom
   ... private repo?

   Daniel: yes

   Kaz: if we want to move it to the wot-marketing repo, I can
   work on that (if Daniel can give permission to me)

   Dave: auto-generated pages will supplement this page
   ... need to check how all (others W3C) pages fit together

   Daniel: layout is not set in stone.. it is purely about
   consistent layout/structure across all our pages

   Kaz: we already have the marketing task force wiki and GitHub
   repo. Also we've started the Marketing TF call, so let's
   discuss the detail during the call.

   McCool: interested people, please join the Marketing TF call

* Scripting API

   Daniel: Scripting API going to be published soon
   ... node-wot will be snychronized also

   McCool: resolution at TPAC?

   Kaz: we made a resolution before TPAC
   ... Zoltan is working on document check, and it's almost done
   ... I'll double check the document and publish it soon.

   <zkis_> Note on Scripting. have made a PR for the Scripting API
   publication (WD4),
   [20]https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/196

     [20] https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/196

* Thing Description

   Taki: TD did not meet last week

AOB?

   McCool: need to review minutes from Fukuoka

   <Zakim> dape, you wanted to ask about meetings tomorrow

   Daniel: Architecture call tomorrow though holiday tomorrow in
   germany?

   McCool: will send out email to mlagally

   <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to ask about the PlugFest calls

   Kaz: regarding the PlugFest calls
   ... we need a moderator for Singapore
   ... no call today?

   McCool: will stay on call
   ... for a short call

   McCool: next week there will be full PlugFest call

   <kaz> [adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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