- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 09:45:36 +0900
- To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
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available at: https://www.w3.org/2019/09/25-wot-minutes.html also as text below. Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Dave! Kazuyuki --- [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - WoT-IG/WG 25 Sep 2019 [2]Agenda [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#25_Sept_2019 Attendees Present dezell, Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ben_Francis, Dave_Raggett, David_Ezell, Ege_Korkan, Takahisa_Suzuki, Taki_Kamiya, Zoltan_Kis, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster Regrets Chair McCool Scribe dsr Contents * [3]Topics 1. [4]WoT IG AC Review Reminder 2. [5]Marketing 3. [6]Group liaisons 4. [7]Presentations from TPAC 2019 5. [8]Normative Privacy Guidelines 6. [9]Web Things Protocol CG charter 7. [10]WG charter updates * [11]Summary of Action Items * [12]Summary of Resolutions __________________________________________________________ <McCool> agenda: [13]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#25_Sept_201 9 [13] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#25_Sept_2019 <scribe> scribenick: dsr McCool: I have been talking to the venue host in Singapore and they have space, but 4 round tables, so I have asked them for alternatives I would like to have book it on the Intel budget if the group agrees The other logistical thing is the time for the chairs call. I suggest that we switch the hour immediately prior to this call <mjkoster> [14]https://github.com/t2trg/wishi/wiki [14] https://github.com/t2trg/wishi/wiki <mjkoster> there's no agenda posted yet One of needs to go to the Friday call in respect to the workshop sebastian: how will the workshop be structured, can we propose some topics? McCool: I would like to talk about discovery, for instance ... we could also raise the whole management thing mjkoster: we could ask them to take responsibility to work on the XXX vocabulary sebastian: +1 on myside for a coap vocab mjkoster: restful actions and events is an interesting topic <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to mention IG Charter review (by Oct 11) <kaz> [15]AC review for WoT IG proposed Charter (Member-only) [15] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2019JulSep/0042.html McCool: we have time to work on the detail list of workshop topic we want to discuss WoT IG AC Review Reminder Kaz reminds us to chase our respective AC Reps as a matter of urgency - see above email for a link to the Review mjkoster: I will respond on behalf of Samsung McCool: currently we only have a quarter of the responses we need to get the charter approved ... please review the Fukuoka F2F minutes and we will approve them in the next call Marketing McCool: we have various things for the Marketing task force to work on, and hence we should go ahead and create the task force and arrange for a wiki page and regular webex call asks people who are interested to attend the Marketing TF call on Mondays <kaz> (Kaz will ask Naomi about her availability for the marketing call.) sebastian: what is the time of the call? McCool: 8am EST, 1pm UK, 2pm Germany, 9pm Korea and Japan. We do have the time zone change chaos coming up … Kaz: late October for USA, and 2 weeks later for Europe <inserted> [5am Pacific, 8am Eastern, 1pm UK, 2pm EU, 9pm Japan (till Oct 27)] McCool: our calls are tied to Boston (EST), right? Kaz: yes McCool: anything else [no] Group liaisons We met with several groups during TPAC: Decentralized Identifiers, Edge Computing, Privacy and JSON-LD McCool: I am looking after Privacy and Edge Computing. JSON-LD Victor Who is interested in liaising with DID WG? dezell_: I am given that I am a member of that WG McCool: it would be good to get an invited presentation on their main objectives Kaz: what about the media and entertainment IG, we spoke about a joint call on December 3rd McCool: yes, also we want to get someone from the Accessibility IG to join our group Kaz: possibly Josh from the W3C staff Presentations from TPAC 2019 <mjkoster> (sorry, have to drop off now) McCool: please add your presentations from TPAC to this directory <McCool> [16]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#25_Sept_201 9 [16] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#25_Sept_2019 When reviewing the minutes missing presentations will be marked TBD Normative Privacy Guidelines Certain people felt that WoT WG should be taking a more normative approach, and that the CR should incorporate this Our current charter extension runs until December 2019, the last date for a CR submission is 3rd week in Octobe I sent an email to the Privacy IG seeking agreement on a timeslot for joint work We need to work on a strawman privacy section rather than having the guidelines spread throughout the spec The Security TF needs to propose this new wording McCool: I can’t personally make the next Security TF call on Monday We should move the call to Tuesday instead We need someone from the Privacy IG to work with us actively rather than wait for a review at the end let’s create a doodle poll for a call next week let’s share this with the Privacy IG McCool: I seem to remember Tuesday 7am EST as our first suggestion Kaz: I will create the poll for you McCool: let’s pick a time for next week now and use the poll for subsequent calls <taki> [17]previous doodle for security [17] https://doodle.com/poll/uygq7wtn75syw8h2 Kaz: I will also create a webex for the telecon sebastian: we need a reference example that we can learn from when writing our own text Kaz: this is the first occasion that the PING IG have asked for a normative section, so that’s why I think we needed to talk with PLH and Ralph Ralph was okay with our proposed direction McCool: we need to make protecting the TD mandatory There are cases where you don’t want to provide the URI for a TD, but sometimes a temporary URI would be acceptable Kaz: we need to focus on satisfying the W3C Director and moving the spec forward McCool: there’s a big discussion within W3C on the appropriate role of privacy, and we’re kind of a test case for that right now we have mostly informative statements, some of which we can make normative making TD ID’s optional is more contensious Dave: could we ask Sam to represent us and help find a way forward? McCool: The person who was most vocal in the TPAC meeting was Tom We probably want a W3C Member person not a staff person Web Things Protocol CG charter McCool: everyone needs to read this and be ready to ask questions next week we don’t have adequate time today Ben: there is an email on the IG list that introduces the CG’s aims <inserted> [18]email thread on the Web Thing Protocol CG on the WoT IG list [18] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-ig/2019Sep/0007.html <benfrancis> Yes, that thread. WG charter updates McCool: We may want to adjust the timeline given the delays for the CR If you have suggestions for the charter, please follow the process I outlined Does anyone have an objection to a WG Charter call next week on Thursday I think a single meeting should be sufficient to wrap up the charter <kaz> [thursday: 4am Pacific, 7am Eeastern, noon UK, 1pm EU, 8pm Japan is the current Charter slot] McCool asks kaz to set up a doodle poll and ensure that Michael Lagally is included Let’s look for a variety of times on Thursday Kaz: I can do that, but let’s not forget the need for a Discovery TF slot McCool: the Discovery TF is lower priority but could take the same slot in subsequent weeks The scripting discussion is likely to be deferred until 2 weeks from now Zoltan: what should we do in the meantime? McCool: we need to discuss where it fits into our charter, who should we collaborate with? should we have a management API, etc. I want to work on a better template for use cases and requirements this would allow us to better justify the scripting work I would be happy to have a private call with zkis if that would help in the meantime we are out of time for today’s call? Any other business? Kaz: just got a response from PING Chair. PING IG’s next call is on Oct 3 McCool: we should prepare the ground in the meantime Ben: I provided some feedback on the charter a while back and am seeking a response <kaz> [Kaz will generate 3 doodle polls: WG Charter, Security and Discovery] <kaz> [adjourned] Summary of Action Items Summary of Resolutions [End of minutes] __________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [19]scribe.perl version 1.152 ([20]CVS log) $Date: 2019/10/02 00:43:52 $ [19] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [20] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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