- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2019 07:30:20 +0900
- To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2019/03/27-wot-minutes.html
also available as text below.
Thanks,
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
WoT-IG/WG
27 Mar 2019
[2]Agenda
[2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#27_Mar_2019
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Daniel_Peintner,
Kunihiko_Toumura, Taki_Kamiya, Tomoaki_Mizuhsima,
Toru_Kawaguchi, Ege_Korkan, Yosuke_Nakamura
Regrets
Michael_Koster
Chair
McCool
Scribe
kaz
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Agenda
2. [5]TAG review
3. [6]Rechartering
4. [7]Workshop
5. [8]One Data Model
6. [9]TF updates
o [10]Architecture
o [11]TD
o [12]Scripting
o [13]Security
o [14]Testing
* [15]Summary of Action Items
* [16]Summary of Resolutions
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Agenda
[17]Agenda for today
[17] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#27_Mar_2019
McCool: any quick updates?
(none)
<scribe> scribenick: kaz
TAG review
McCool: we've finally submitted review requests for TAG review
[18]TAG review request for the architecture draft
[18] https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/355
[19]TAG review request for the TD draft
[19] https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/357
McCool: (shows the review request for architecture)
... if you see any problems, please let me know
... (shows TD draft for TAG review)
... some issue with ReSpec
... Sebastian manually edited "at-risk" features
... slightly different from the master version
... e.g., for the CSS
... also the architecture document is available
... sequence maybe should be informative appendix
... terminology for this section is not consistent with the
main part
[20]Architecture draft
[20] https://cdn.staticaly.com/gh/w3c/wot-architecture/TAG-review/index.html?env=dev
McCool: (shows the proposed schedule part of the wiki)
[21]Schedule
[21] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Schedule
McCool: still aiming April 9 for CR transition
... but kind of concerned
... let's see what happens
... even if everything goes well, we still need to work during
the weekends
... very tight turnaround
... April 9 is important to finalize the REC until the end of
the Charter period
... architecture has the same schedule
... regarding the binding templates draft
... no update from Koster yet
... but this is a WG Note
... issues with security/privacy document about terminology
updates based on the architecture doc
... in terms of wide reviews
... working on external security reviews
<McCool>
[22]https://www.w3.org/TR/security-privacy-questionnaire/
[22] https://www.w3.org/TR/security-privacy-questionnaire/
[23]security questionnaire
[23] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/blob/TAG-review/proposals/security_and_privacy.md
McCool: bunch of questions
<McCool>
[24]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/blob/TAG-review/pro
posals/security_and_privacy.md
[24] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/blob/TAG-review/proposals/security_and_privacy.md
McCool: most of them are for web servers/browsers
... assessment document above
... explaining our situation/scope
... makes sure having answers to each question
... that's all done
... when we did our documents here
... if we go to the architecture doc
... document for the TAG review available on the "TAG-review"
branch
... putting things back to the main branch too
... TD draft for TAG review has a bit different branch name
... "TD-TAG-review"
... that's all done
... wondering about the other wide reviews?
Kaz: are we ok to use the TAG review versions for that purpose?
McCool: should work
Kaz: ok
McCool: would make sense to ask the JSON-LD guys to review it
as well
Kaz: ok
... is it ok to use it for the other reviews (i18n, a12y,
json-ld)?
(no objections)
RESOLUTION: we'll use the TAG review version drafts for the
other wide reviews as well
<scribe> ACTION: kaz to talk with i18n,a12y, json-ld for their
wide reviews
<trackbot> Created ACTION-170 - Talk with i18n,a12y, json-ld
for their wide reviews [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2019-04-03].
Rechartering
McCool: our current (extended) charters will expire the end of
June
... my personal feeling is we can wait until the June workshop
for WG
... but we should think about IG quickly
... including selection of chairs and updated charters
... don't have to finalize today, but need to continue the
discussion
... let's continue the discussion using emails as well
... please speak up if you have opinions
... wonders about the procedure
Kaz: it takes one month for the AC review
McCool: we need to start IG though we're not sure about the WG
deliverables yet
Workshop
McCool: please submit your papers by April 15
... PC call?
Kaz: Monday 10pm JST (2pm EU) would be the best slot
... but still checking with Sebastian
... need to talk with my Team colleagues to resolve conflicts
McCool: let's record "Monday 10m JST" is the candidate
... when to start?
Kaz: maybe next Monday, April 1 if we can resolve the conflict
One Data Model
Kaz: Koster can't join the call today, but will make some
report next week
... basically, he made a report on WoT there and got good
responses
TF updates
* Architecture
McCool: Lagally is not available today
... but we'll have an Architecture call tomorrow
... I have 2 PRs to be merged
[25]link for PRs
[25] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pulls
McCool: maybe we can merge them tomorrow
... basically, previously brought this up
... the point is
... appendix A sequence diagrams
... the trouble is there is an issue of assuming servers as
devices
... it should work bi-directionally
... this is something still need discussion
... maybe this whole thing should belong to the binding
document
... mapping from abstracted layer to actual protocols
... would talk with Koster as well
... would be easier to maintain if it's included in the binding
... so better to include it in the binding document for
maintenance purposes
... abstraction of things
... would encourage you all to look at it
[26]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/189
[26] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/189
McCool: that's it for architecture
* TD
McCool: Sebastian here?
... on vacation
Kaz: maybe Taki can make a report?
Taki: so far working on the TAG review
... Sebastian generated the template for the review request
... McCool finalized it and submitted it
... security considerations as well
... during the telco, we discussed a bunch of issues
... now the context is available at the top level
... that's a big change
... also added JSON Schema for the full TD which is compatible
to JSON-LD
McCool: ok
... "@context" appears only at the top level now
... not sure how to handle SecurityScheme
Taki: maybe you can create another issue?
McCool: we need a way for extension for security
... a bit confused with the possible extension
... can work on the issue tomorrow for the discussion on Friday
Taki: discussed what's simple TD and what's full TD as well
... Sebastian added clarification
McCool: there were serialization discussion
... dependency on JSON-LD 1.1
... transformation section got much shorter
... think still need some refinement
... suspect we'll get feedback from TAG as well
Kaz: also have some concern about description about
serialization
... talking with PLH about the procedure
McCool: good to get reviews by TAG and JSON-LD group
* Scripting
Daniel: no meeting this Monday
McCool: ok
* Security
McCool: worked on the security questionnaire
... final version is now merged
* Testing
McCool: sent email mentioning no testing call today
... not much updates on my side so far
... dis some update with playground
... but virtual machine crashed and took some time
... still some issues with the tool
Ege: the major changes about context
... they have to get removed
McCool: data schema, security ones should go away
... so we can remove this big chunk of yellow part (=features
at risk)
Ege: look into other issues
... manual parts require people's input
McCool: will go through Intel's results again
... also need to look into the latest spec again
... some work still needed
... next week we'll definitely have a Testing call
... any questions?
... topics?
(none)
McCool: would assume we're done today
... tx for your hard work!
... make sure we can make sure the deadline
[adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: kaz to talk with i18n,a12y, json-ld for their
wide reviews
Summary of Resolutions
1. [27]we'll use the TAG review version drafts for the other
wide reviews as well
[End of minutes]
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