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[wot-ig/wg] minutes - 24 April 2019

From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 04:23:45 +0900
Message-ID: <CAJ8iq9Va5o5iMUOT6xOGcNuAXdShuUBCtfCHAAA=DSQ-BEsg9g@mail.gmail.com>
To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
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also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking these minutes, Dave!

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                               - DRAFT -

                               WoT-IG/WG

24 Apr 2019

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#24_Apr_2019

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz_Ashimura, Taki_Kamiya, Matthias_Kovatsch,
          Michael_McCool, Dave_Raggett, Kunihiko_Toumura,
          Tomoaki_Mizushima, Michael_Koster, Daniel_Peintner,
          Toru_Kawaguchi, Ege_Korkan

   Regrets
          Sebastian, Lagally, Zoltan

   Chair
          McCool, Matthias

   Scribe
          dsr

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]TAG review
         2. [5]I18n review
         3. [6]Workshop
         4. [7]Rechairing
         5. [8]Rechartering the WoT IG/WG
         6. [9]cleaning up the website
         7. [10]Task force updates
               o [11]TD
               o [12]Architecture
     * [13]Summary of Action Items
     * [14]Summary of Resolutions
     __________________________________________________________

   <kaz> scribenick: dsr

TAG review

   McCool reports TAG review is getting delayed (till May 8)

   Matthias talks about the delays in getting to REC

   Kaz: talking with PLH for guidance

   <kaz> [15]TAG minutes

     [15] https://github.com/w3ctag/meetings/blob/gh-pages/2019/telcons/04-24-minutes.md

I18n review

   <kaz> [16]i18n feedback (member-only)

     [16] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2019Apr/0029.html

   Main feedback is on language identification and recommendation
   on being able to give multiple languages

   References to a document with advice

   <kaz> [17]short self-checklist

     [17] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/shortchecklist

   <kaz> [18]detailed checklist

     [18] https://www.w3.org/International/techniques/developing-specs

   McCool: some issue about base direction for strings that
   contain text with multiple directions

   <McCool> [19]https://w3c.github.io/string-meta/

     [19] https://w3c.github.io/string-meta/

   Matthias: the self-check document is a big help

   <inserted> Kaz: had some discussion during the TD call on APril
   19, and the TD guys are working on the checklist. think
   Kawaguchi-san and Taki can make some report on their parts
   during the TF report.

   Matthias: document editors should define a workplan that takes
   people’s vacation into account

Workshop

   Kaz: we had a workshop program committee call yesterday, and
   will have the next call on Monday, April 29

   Kaz talks about the process for the workshop paper review

   Matthias: some people failed to upload their papers

   McCool: our instructions were a little ambiguous

   Kaz: we can start the reviews on the submissions that included
   papers. Also Lagally will ping those who forgot to attach
   position papers and ask them to submit their position papers.

   Matthias: PC members can log into EasyChair to express your
   bids for which papers you want to review

   mkovatsc turns to face to face planning (on Thursday/Friday
   right after the workshop on Mon/Tue/Wed)

   McCool: Ege has reserved a room for us

   We should create a wiki page for the details

   The room is booked all day for Thursday and until 3pm on
   Friday. No catering booked as yet

   <kaz> [20]demo page

     [20] https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/master/workshop/ws2/demos-2019-Munich

   Suggestion for creating a f2f folder under ws2 folder

   <inserted> or w3c wiki as usual

   <ege> [21]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_Page#Upcoming

     [21] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_Page#Upcoming

   Matthias suggests we use w3c wiki for the f2f part as usual.

   McCool: let’s get the wiki in place and we can then cover the
   details

   McCool: in respect to demo planning

   <inserted> involvement in the plugfest demo

   Kaz: we should ask Mozilla about their involvement. Kathy is
   participating in the Program Committee, so we can continue the
   discussion within the Program Committee.

   McCool: I can also reach out to them

Rechairing

   Matthias: As you know Kajimoto-san has stepped down.
   technically, 2 chairs would be OK but some of the participants
   might be interested in joining the Chairs team.

   We originally picked 3 co-chairs to represent the 3 main
   continents

   <McCool> I would support having Sebastian as an additional
   co-chair

   I am preparing an email to the WG on this

   Kaz notes that we need to identify specific roles/rationale for
   each co-Chair. Also according to the W3C Process, group Chairs
   are appointed by the Director, so Kaz would like to talk with
   the W3C Management starting with PLH.

   <ege> points out that the IG wiki at
   [22]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_Page#Chairs_and_Staff_C
   ontacts has obsolete information

     [22] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_Page#Chairs_and_Staff_Contacts

   <kaz> matthias fixes the above IG wiki page

   McCool: We have an opportunity to clean up our web pages
   including the wiki
   ... the idea is to have the decision on chairs next week after
   input from W3M

Rechartering the WoT IG/WG

   Matthias: we need to talk about the timing for this

   <McCool>
   [23]https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/charters/wot-ig-2019
   .html

     [23] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/charters/wot-ig-2019.html

   McCool: we could propose a short term charter to finish current
   work items, then a fresh charter for work items coming out of
   the workshop

   Matthias: we still need to get W3M’s approval for the proposed
   course of action

   McCool: we have a draft charter for the IG, but not yet for the
   WG

   Matthias: we can talk with other interested parties to ensure a
   smooth transition after the June workshop

   McCool: should we arrange a separate call with Mozilla given
   that this timeslot isn’t convenient for them

   Matthias: let’s put down what our starting position is first

   Kaz notes that we need to get an AC review even for a short
   term rechartering, so he has started to consult with PLH about
   the procedure.

Cleaning up the website

   McCool: points to obsolete pages (news stories)

   <kaz> [24]https://www.w3.org/WoT/

     [24] https://www.w3.org/WoT/

   Suggests much shorter text for the WoT landing page

   <kaz> [25]https://www.w3.org/WoT/WG/

     [25] https://www.w3.org/WoT/WG/

   <inserted> McCool: the WG page looks better (than the landing
   page).

   Matthias: fully agree and we should have this done before the
   workshop

   McCool: happy to create a first draft for discussion at next
   week’s call
   ... looks for somewhere to put the draft in github

   <McCool>
   [26]https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/master/MARKETING/WebSite

     [26] https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/master/MARKETING/WebSite

   <kaz> McCool: above URL for the draft text

Task force updates

* TD

   Taki: we spent most of the time on the I18N check sheet

   <kaz> [27]Kawaguhci-san's input

     [27] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/578

   <kaz> [28]Taki's input

     [28] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/579

   <kaz> [29]Mizushima-san's input

     [29] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/580

   we want to progress this as soon as practical

   McCool: one issue we discussed was using the ISO time and date
   format

   Kaz: agreed that we only use that

   Matthias: the ISO spec is very broad, ECMAScript defined a
   subset

   <kaz>

   <kaz> Assignments so far:

   <kaz> Toru: working with time

   <kaz> Mizu: working with personal names

   <kaz> Taki: working with numbers

   <kaz> Matsukura: language basics

   <kaz> Kaz: defining language values

   <kaz> ]]

   <kaz> please see also:
   [30]https://www.w3.org/2019/04/19-wot-td-minutes.html

     [30] https://www.w3.org/2019/04/19-wot-td-minutes.html

   Taki: we have some items which are unassigned as yet

   <kaz>

   <kaz> Remaining_Checkpoints: declaring language at the resource
   level

   <kaz> ... establishing the language of a content block

   <kaz> ... establishing the language of inline runs

   <kaz> ]]

   McCool: these 2 will be done soon

   <kaz> [31]checklist

     [31] https://www.w3.org/International/techniques/developing-specs.en?open=text_direction

   Matthias: please create issues for those which apply to TD but
   are currently unassigned

   I could take over some if that would help

   The I18N check list doesn’t apply to the architecture document

   <kaz> [32]checklist template generator

     [32] https://w3c.github.io/bp-i18n-specdev/#ghChecklist

* Architecture

   Matthias: we made quite some progress over last 2 weeks, but
   some details still left to do

   <kaz> [33]architecture issues

     [33] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues

   Matthias: any other business for next week?

   McCool: I will chair the demo planning call 10 mins from now
   ... adjourned

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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