[wot] minutes - 9 November 20

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Thanks a lot for taking these minutes, Michael Koster!

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Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

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                                 WoT IG

09 Nov 2016

   [2]Agenda

      [2]
https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#Agenda_of_next_WoT_IG_WebConf:_9_November_2016

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/09-wot-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Dave_Raggett, Feng_Zhang, Johannes_Hund,
          Katsuyoshi_Naka, Kaz_Ashimura, Keiichi_Tokuyama,
          Masato_Ohura, Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool, Ryan_Ware,
          Sebastian_Kaebisch, Takeshi_Yamada, Takuki_Kamiya,
          Yingying_Chen, Yongjing_Zhang

   Regrets
   Chair
          Johannes, McCool

   Scribe
          Michael_Koster

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Presentation slides at OCF
         2. [6]f2f arrangements
     * [7]Summary of Action Items
     * [8]Summary of Resolutions
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   <kaz> scribenick: mjkoster

   <kaz> scribe: Michael_Koster

Presentation slides at OCF

   mccool presents slides for OCF meeting

   mccool: OCF NDA prevents disclosing meeting proceedings
   ... changed "bridging" to "spanning" to differentiaie from OCF
   bridging
   ... changed "standardised metadata" slide to show more
   architecture detail

   dsr: the slide is meant to show semantic metadata enables
   interoperability

   mccool: wanted to show how TD is hosted by each platform

   <dsr> [actually the different categories of metadata listed on
   the left of the slide, not just semantics]

   sebastian: asks for clarification
   ... suggest rearranging diagram to make it clear the "semantic
   metadata" is bound to the platform

   mccool: can update the diagram to clarify using arrows and
   indicate binding
   ... w3c shows slide showing all the related standards
   ... architecture slide, change "proprietary" and "legacy" to
   "native" as more neutral terminology

   sebastian: missing the point of reusing existing domain
   knowledge e.g. schema.org, other ontologies

   Also the W3C tetris diagram is way out of date

   yongjing: "native" implies WoT native, may want to clarify

   johannes: IoT instead of native?

   rrware: platform native

   <Zakim> dsr, you wanted to suggest change of colour scheme to
   improve contrast white on yellow is hard to read

   <ying_ying> [9]Original PowerPoint file

      [9]
https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/current-practices/wot-getting-started-riot-summit-2016.pptx

   mccool: where is the source for the slides?

   discussion of alternate terms vs. "native"

   mccool: maybe remove the entire external subsystem and just
   show pure WoT architecture

   jhund: show OCF protocol binding, client, and server connection

   mccool: relationship slide to show that the broader scope of
   W3C can open OCF to other ecosystems
   ... suggest that a set of people both OCF and W3C members work
   out a proposal for scope and deliverables and submit that for
   publication

   this done in a way that respects OCF NDA

   mccool: could also have a closed session under NDA but initial
   step is a document to propose scope and deliverables
   ... summary slide
   ... proposes to add the benefit of enabling automated tooling

   sebastian: add "..." for other ecosystems to previous slide
   ... semantic web *technology*

   <Zakim> jhund, you wanted to talk about tooling

   jhund: agrees that tooling is a benefit "ecosystem of tools" is
   what drives the web

   mccool: scalable tooling

   jhund: expecting an open source ecosystem to emerge around this

   dsr: also talk about an open marketplace of services
   ... vendor and platform independent

   mccool: overlaps with OCF

   dsr: it expands the reach of OCF

   mccool: OK
   ... close discussion, other agenda items?

f2f arrangements

   jhund: plan an open day for public participation
   ... good outreach and exchange of ideas

   mccool: planning for 4 days

   kaz: we have several topics for our f2f in February, IG
   meeting, WG meeting, PlugFest and OpenDay. there could be a
   possibility we might omit OpenDay and concentrate the other 3
   topics this time, but we should discuss what to do.

   dsr: silicon valley would have a lot of interested people for
   open day and it would be very valuable outreach for the IG/WG

   jhund: we should gather proposed speakers resp. outreach
   possibilities into the wiki

   dsr: cloud companies, google cloud

   mccool: amazon, universities
   ... brainstorm on wiki page
   ... final pass on slides and present in morning

   jhund: how to split IG/WG for the meeting

   mccool: will charter be done?

   dsr: should be done by then

   <kaz> Let's check with Wendy.

   mccool: working on PRs to implement changes from feedback
   ... AOB?
   ... added logos to the page of W3C IG members
   ... others that need to be added?
   ... AOB?

   kaz: why don't we add pictures from the Lisbon PlugFest to the
   slides?
   ... will send to mccool

   mccool: adjourn

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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